Posts by BoogerMan

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Red Flags identifying Jehovah's Witnesses as a Cult

by Vanderhoven7 in

what are some of the red flags that should alert people to the fact that jehovah's witnesses are a high control and damaging religion?.

one that comes to mind is.

1. one cannot leave jehovah's witnesses with one's reputation intact.

BoogerMan

If you know a teaching is wrong, you will be in serious trouble for saying so and proving it!

Example: years ago I pointed out the org's "wrong thinking" re John 5:28,29 - that resurrected ones will commit evil deeds. Didn't go down well with fellow JW's - especially the "spiritually strong" elders.

Surprise, surprise!!! September 2022 Study Watchtower article, page 18, paragraph 14, (this week's study) reveals a wondrous 'new light,' aka 'reversal of doctrine.'

The Guardians of Doctrine now say this: "In the past, we understood Jesus’ words to refer to the deeds the resurrected ones will practice after their resurrection."

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Noah's Ark - Kentucky

by BoogerMan in

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regardless of belief/non-belief in the bible account, why is the ark nearly always depicted by both believers & non-believers as a huge boat, with a rounded hull & stern, and a tapered bow?

https://arkencounter.com/ .

the ark was crate shaped according to the measurements.

BoogerMan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant

The Boat of the Covenant must have been a sight to see! 52×31×31inches.

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And JW's wholeheartedly SWALLOW this!!

by BoogerMan in

didn't peter say that god is not partial?

(acts 10:34) the 'fartful slave' in warwick disagrees!.

w11 8/15 p. 24 par.

BoogerMan

Isn't it strange that over the past several decades, millions of JW's were never taught to tell their Bible studies that a heavenly hope was possible for them, when Paul specifically stated there was one hope!

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And JW's wholeheartedly SWALLOW this!!

by BoogerMan in

didn't peter say that god is not partial?

(acts 10:34) the 'fartful slave' in warwick disagrees!.

w11 8/15 p. 24 par.

BoogerMan

Didn't Peter say that God is not partial? (Acts 10:34) The 'fartful slave' in Warwick disagrees!

w11 8/15 p. 24 par. 7 Jehovah—“The God Who Gives Peace” - The provision of the ransom makes it possible for anointed Christians, who “have been declared righteous” as sons of God, to “enjoy peace with God.” (but the other sheep' don't)

w10 1/15 p. 5 Why Dedicate Yourself to ~~The Borg~~ Jehovah? - Jesus’ “other sheep” (riff-raff) will not become sons of God until the end of the thousand years.

w09 2/15 p. 9 par. 20 - Faithful anointed Christians have been adopted by Jehovah and are “sons of God.” (but not you 'other sheep' trash) They already have an intimate relationship with Jehovah as his children because they exercise faith in Christ and wholeheartedly worship “the God of love and of peace.” (and 8m + 'other sheep' don't? How silly of them!)

w08 1/15 p. 21 par. 8 - Anointed Christians are declared righteous because they exercise faith in Jesus’ ransom sacrifice. (and 8m + 'other sheep' don't? How silly of them, yet again!)

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Noah's Ark - Kentucky

by BoogerMan in

jw
friends

regardless of belief/non-belief in the bible account, why is the ark nearly always depicted by both believers & non-believers as a huge boat, with a rounded hull & stern, and a tapered bow?

https://arkencounter.com/ .

the ark was crate shaped according to the measurements.

BoogerMan

Perhaps the Bible's description of the vessel being called an 'ark' (meaning chest or coffer) instead of a 'boat,' offers a clue as to its functional shape.

It seems certain (according to experts) that the Kentucky ark would disintegrate if placed in water.

Mr. A. M. Robb was referring to any given wooden ship, but I assume he wasn't asked about a gigantic wooden crate, reinforced internally throughout with wooden floors. Maybe.

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Noah's Ark - Kentucky

by BoogerMan in

jw
friends

regardless of belief/non-belief in the bible account, why is the ark nearly always depicted by both believers & non-believers as a huge boat, with a rounded hull & stern, and a tapered bow?

https://arkencounter.com/ .

the ark was crate shaped according to the measurements.

BoogerMan

Regardless of belief/non-belief in the Bible account, why is the ark nearly always depicted by both believers & non-believers as a huge boat, with a rounded hull & stern, and a tapered bow? https://arkencounter.com/

The ark was crate shaped according to the measurements. It wasn't built to sail on a cruise, it was made to float.

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Extraordinary CLAIMS require extraordinary EVIDENCE

by BoogerMan in

some of christianity's denominations/tribes/clans claim that god almighty/christ jesus personally selected their leadership/clergy to represent heaven on earth.. question for jw's: what scriptural or divine proof convinced/convinces you that it was the org/governing body?.

self-proclaimed statements from literature does not qualify as proof..

BoogerMan

Some of Christianity's denominations/tribes/clans claim that God Almighty/Christ Jesus personally selected their leadership/clergy to represent heaven on earth.

Question for JW's: What scriptural or divine proof convinced/convinces you that it was the org/governing body?

Self-proclaimed statements from literature does not qualify as proof.

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The Great Tribulation

by Fisherman in

will the great tribulation hurt individuals more than what job, jesus, roman punishment, naz&i germany, hiroshima, jail, capital punishment, disease, pain, terror, horror, soldier in the battlefield or some terrible pain people experience this very moment?

how worse can pain and suffering get.

it is very common.

BoogerMan

@ Fisherman - ...Rev also adds features and events to the greater fulfillment of the prophecy...

I'll stick with Jesus' version that there would only be one G.T. featuring all the signs he gave, and that it would "never occur again." No greater fulfillment.

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POLICE

by BoogerMan in

on halloween night, police arrested two people who were dressed up individually as a battery and a firework rocket.

they charged one and let the other off.. police in london are investigating the theft of dogs throughout the city.. they don't have any leads.. i found a large box filled with kodak 35 mm camera film, and handed it in to the police.. they said they'd let me know if there were any developments.. police recovered a valuable stolen microscope.. they say they're looking into it.. yorkshire police can't establish what's wrong with the sat-navs in their new fleet of squad cars.. they're still looking for leeds.. police are investigating the theft of a perpetual motion device.

they say it's an ongoing inquiry.. the old ones are the best!

BoogerMan

On halloween night, police arrested two people who were dressed up individually as a battery and a firework rocket.

They charged one and let the other off.

Police in London are investigating the theft of dogs throughout the city.

They don't have any leads.

I found a large box filled with Kodak 35 mm camera film, and handed it in to the police.

They said they'd let me know if there were any developments.

Police recovered a valuable stolen microscope.

They say they're looking into it.

Yorkshire police can't establish what's wrong with the sat-navs in their new fleet of squad cars.

They're still looking for Leeds.

Police are investigating the theft of a perpetual motion device.

They say it's an ongoing inquiry.

The old ones are the best! Any more?

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Help needed

by NewLight in

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friends

i’ve been visiting this site for quite a long time, although i rarely posted.

i would like to thank simon and all the participants, for the valuable information and support that is available here, for anyone searching about the jw organization.. just a brief introduction of myself: i live in europe (english is not my native language, so please bear with any mistakes i make).

i was born in a jw family and i’m still in the organization, but i’ve been “on the fence” about leaving the organization for quite a long time.

BoogerMan

Hi NewLight, welcome to the forum.

Many of us have been through what you are feeling just now and have used different means to escape the claws of the WTBTS beast.

If you're going to disassociate, you'll know exactly what faces you. If you fade, it should be less traumatic. Here is the JW 'firewall' I have shared with other "faders" over the years, to help deal with interrogators:

"Thank you for your concerns, but I/we have PRIVATE & PERSONAL concerns which I/we can't discuss with anyone at the moment, but I/we appreciate your motives and concern. If things change, it's good to know that I/we can call you."

Conversation Stoppers - especially when elders contact you:

1) "We only want to come and give you encouragement." Simply repeat the response above!

2) "But how can we help you if you won't talk to us?"

"Everyone has PRIVATE & PERSONAL situations which they can't discuss with others, and I'm sure that includes elders - I'm no different!"

3) Are you refusing to talk with us?

"No, I just don't want to discuss things right now. I'll call you if things change." If they persist with their interrogation, just say 'thanks', and walk away - immediately!

Do not PROLONG their interrogation. They can't punish you for ending a conversation! Repeat any/all of the above to anyone who tries to extract information from you, because the elders will try and get someone you trust to get the information out of you! Elders hate having potential "loose cannons" in their domain. All the best.