rattigan350, whenever someone brings up the failings of the organisation we refer to as "the watchtower", tries to define the argument away by saying that the watchtower is a corporate entity and has very little to do with the kingdom halls, the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses.. could someone who knows their stuff please explain if this is a false dichotomy, using the literature which is used by r&f jws, if possible?.
it gets kind of tiresome when someone makes a point about something that the watchtower said and mr. apologist comes along and tries to define away what is usually a very good point..
If the WTBTS and the CCoJW are separate entities - independent of each other - and the WT has no authority over the G.B., (as Gerrit Losch asserted to a court in the U.S.) then why does the G.B. of the CCoJW orchestrate and conduct the Annual Meeting of the WTBTS?
Why don't the board members of the WTBTS Inc. run the annual self-praise fest???????
w02 3/1 p. 17 par.
16 - "consider how many....speculate recklessly in the stock market, dreaming of making a fortune.
w99 10/1 p. 12 par.
.......do as we SAY!
w02 3/1 p. 17 par. 16 - "Consider how many....speculate recklessly in the stock market, dreaming of making a fortune."
w99 10/1 p. 12 par. 12 - "Any speculation as to when the “great tribulation” might begin is of no value."
six minute video of wtbt$ begging for money, now on jwborg website.
https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/accomplishministry/pub-mwbv_202311_1_video.
"thank you for 'setting something aside'" robert butler.
At 4 mins 9 seconds in the video, the Borg quotes the apostle Paul's advice about giving, but throughout their history they've never exhorted "career JW's" to follow his example - to earn their own living while preaching the good news!
I'm just waiting for the WTBTS to join the evangelical's gravy-train on TV, and start up JW-TV.
link to article .
a spanish court ordered the newspaper to publish the reply of the jehovah’s witnesses to a defamatory 2022 article.
the court found the newspaper has been fed false information by an association of disgruntled former witnesses and has uncritically published it.. .
If it looks like a cult, speaks like a cult, and acts like a cult - then it's a cult!
Millions of ex-JW's will testify to the fact of their being "stoned to death."
a very good friend of many years told me that he prays to mary and makes requests.
i didn't try to discuss/debate the subject - his choice - but wondered how catholics would view these scriptures: .
(john 14:6) jesus answered, “i am the way and the truth and the life.
A very good friend of many years told me that he prays to Mary and makes requests. I didn't try to discuss/debate the subject - his choice - but wondered how Catholics would view these scriptures:
(John 14:6) Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
(John 16:23) In that day you will no longer ask me anything. Very truly I tell you, my Father will give you whatever you ask in my name.
(1 Timothy 2:5) For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus
"from november 1st 2023, all congregants of the faith must tick a box every month to prove they are still christians.".
can you imagine the org's reaction if this took place?
they would be ticked off!
Yes Jan.
Just trying to highlight the otg's Pharisaic "direction" that ordinary publishers now have to affirm their JW identity by ticking a box every month - as proof!
i was born in 1977 & came in as a convert in 2003 --- so i have no idea what went on before my time.. however i have been familiar with the scriptures of "nobody knows the day or hour" & " it will come as a theif in the night" meaning that it was sure but unpredictable time.
how could anyone belive that anyone else ( organization or not) put a date on it?.
also what was the significance of 1975 anyway?
@ TxNVSue2023 - Most of us here thought the same as you - that the "slave's" interpretation of Matthew 24 had a "greater fulfilment" for our time.
Regarding the great tribulation at Matthew 24:21, Jesus said "....no, nor will occur again".
How can something which Jesus said would never be repeated, possibly have a greater fulfillment?
Which part of "never" is too difficult for the G.B. to understand?
Jesus also said, "Truly I say to you that this (not "that") generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen. (Matthew 24:34)
The generation he was speaking of did see all these things occur, and then the "end" did come in - 70 C.E.
2023-10-11-confidential publications.
https://imgbox.com/ks8qzp5h .
atlantis!.
Thanks Atlantis.
LOL - The daily text and the next Watchtower are "confidential." 🤣
The org's woeful attempts at building "anticipation & excitement" are excruciating.
"from november 1st 2023, all congregants of the faith must tick a box every month to prove they are still christians.".
can you imagine the org's reaction if this took place?
they would be ticked off!
"From November 1st 2023, all congregants of the faith must tick a box every month to prove they are still Christians."
Can you imagine the org's reaction if this took place? They would be ticked off! 🤣
another new light coming soon?
"our preaching work is done, we now await jehovah's final message to mankind.
(revelation 11:3) "i will cause my two witnesses to prophesy for 1,260 days dressed in sackcloth.. .
Another new light coming soon?
"Our preaching work is done, we now await Jehovah's final message to mankind."
(Revelation 11:3) "I will cause my two witnesses to prophesy for 1,260 days dressed in sackcloth.. . ."
(Revelation 14:6) "And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare to those who dwell on the earth, to every nation and tribe and tongue and people. "
Such a "new light" would confirm the Annual Meeting's "new light" regarding "great tribulation repenters" being saved.
