@ SBF -
The Watchtower—Study Edition | May 2024
"A limited number, 144,000 in all, of Christ’s faithful followers will receive a resurrection to immortal life in heaven."
By coincidence, this is the, "What we know/what we don't know" issue.
say it ain’t so!
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in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?
@ SBF -
The Watchtower—Study Edition | May 2024
"A limited number, 144,000 in all, of Christ’s faithful followers will receive a resurrection to immortal life in heaven."
By coincidence, this is the, "What we know/what we don't know" issue.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/528110/supreme-court-dismisses-jehovah-s-witnesses-final-appeal-for-abuse-in-care-exemption .
The org sold that real estate and Branch office to the Elim Church. 😄😄😄😄😄
https://jwtalk.net/topic/11307-new-zealand-branch-sold/
If a R & F JW carried out such a business transaction with "Babylon the Great," they'd be rushed into a judicial!!!
https://youtu.be/ulan2hhagz8?si=jpedzunzb5o_6axd.
here’s a cautionary tale for anyone counting on past ties with jehovah’s witnesses to dodge conscription: they’ll throw you under the bus faster than you can say “conscientious objector.” a man in ukraine learned this the hard way after refusing military service and hoping his old religious connections would save him.
spoiler alert—they didn’t.
On the subject of the O.P. - Are governments (e.g. Ukraine) now insisting that to be a conscientious objector, you have to be a signed up member of a Christian denomination/sect?
Romans 8:38, 39 - "For I am convinced that neither death nor life nor angels nor governments (nor the WTBTS) nor things now here nor things to come nor powers nor height nor depth nor any other creation will be able to separate us from God’s love that is in Christ Jesus our Lord."
Surely a faith is a faith - even for non-denominational Christians?
apparently, the downsizing is still happening and from what i read those let go are over 50!.
sad because these people expected to be lifers.
now they have to make their way in the world at an advanced age with no education or desirable skill!..
Bethelites are the "Eve class" - . . .thoroughly deceived . . . (1 Timothy 2:14)
which name does the evil faithful slave's literature demand that you focus on - jehovah or jesus?.
do jesus & the bible agree with the org's obsession with the name 'jehovah', or was jesus just being presumptuous?
(matthew 10:22) and you will be objects of hatred by all people on account and whoever receives one such young child on the basis of my name receives me.... (matthew 18:20) for where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there i am in their midst.”.
Which name does the evil faithful slave's literature demand that you focus on - Jehovah or Jesus?
Do Jesus & the Bible agree with the org's obsession with the name 'Jehovah', or was Jesus just being presumptuous?
(Matthew
10:22) And YOU will be objects of hatred by all people on account
and whoever receives one such young child on the basis of my
name receives me...
(Matthew 18:20) For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst.”
(Matthew 19:29) And everyone that has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or lands for the sake of my name will receive many times more and will inherit everlasting life.
(Matthew 24:5) ...for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’
(Matthew 24:9) ....and YOU will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name.
(Mark 9:39) ...for there is no one that will do a powerful work on the basis of my name that will quickly be able to revile me;
(Mark 13:6) Many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am he,’ and will mislead many.
(Mark 13:13) ...and YOU will be objects of hatred by all people on account of my name.
(Mark 16:17) By the use of my name they will expel demons,...
(Luke 9:48) “Whoever receives this young child on the basis of my name receives me...
(Luke 21:8) ....for many will come on the basis of my name,...
(Luke 21:12) YOU being haled before kings and governors for the sake of my name.
(Luke 21:17) ...and YOU will be objects of hatred by all people because of my name.
(John 14:13, 14) ...whatever it is that YOU ask in my name, I will do this, in order that the Father may be glorified in connection with the Son. If YOU ask anything in my name, I will do it.
(John 14:26) But the helper, the holy spirit, which the Father will send in my name,...
(John 15:16) ....in order that no matter what YOU ask the Father in my name he might give it to YOU.
(John 15:21) But they will do all these things against YOU on account of my name,...
(John 16:23, 24) If YOU ask the Father for anything he will give it to YOU in my name. Until this present time YOU have not asked a single thing in my name.
(John 16:26) In that day YOU will ask in my name,...
(Acts 9:15, 16) But the Lord said to him: “Be on your way, because this man is a chosen vessel to me to bear my name to the nations as well as to kings and the sons of Israel. For I shall show him plainly how many things he must suffer for my name.”
For more proof, simply COPY each block of these scriptures and PASTE them into the WT CD ROM search bar.
Every scripture will then be opened up for reading, to help you see whose name is to be witnessed for:
Matthew 10:18; Mark 13:9; Luke 24:48; John 1:15; John 5:37; John 8:18; John 15:26, 27; Acts 1:8; Acts 9:15; Acts 10:39; Acts 10:43; Acts 13:31; Acts 22:15; Acts 22:20; Acts 23:11; Acts 26:16; 1 Corinthians 1:6; 1 Timothy 2:6, 7; 2 Timothy 1:8; 1 John 5:9; Revelation 1:9; Revelation 12:17; Revelation 17:6; Revelation 19:10; Revelation 20:4
........and whose name was to be relied upon:
Matthew 5:11; Matthew 12:21; Matthew 10:22; Matthew 18:5; Matthew 18:20; Matthew 19:29; Matthew 24:5; Matthew 24:9; Mark 9:39; Mark 13:6; Luke 9:48; Luke 9:49; Luke 10:17; Luke 21:8; Luke 21:12; Luke 21:16, 17; Luke 24:47; John 2:23; John 5:27, 28; John 14:26; John 15:16; Acts 2:38; Acts 3:6; Acts 4:10; Acts 5:40; Acts 5:41; Acts 9:14-16; Acts 10:48; Acts 11:26; Acts 16:18; Acts 19:5; Acts 21:13; Acts 22:16; 1 Corinthians 6:11; 2 Corinthians 5:15; Philippians 2:10; Revelation 2:3; Revelation 2:13
serena williams was baptised as a jehovah's witness last year.
photo: pa. .
john mulligan.
I'll send you the info in a D.M. - along with bank details & PIN number. 😁
I trust the media implicitly, BTW.
jehovah’s witnesses believe via russell..... a god that would use his power to create human beings whom he foreknew and predestinated should be eternally tormented, could neither be wise, just nor loving.
his standards would be lower than that of many men....mankind search for god pg 351. hebrews 12: 8 for the lord disciplines those he loves, and he punishes each one he accepts as his child.
for reasoning sake, does russell argument holds here since even those god sees as children and god loves are disciplined or punished?.
to train children
to be instructed or taught or learn
to cause one to learn
to chastise
to chastise or castigate with words, to correct
of those who are moulding the character of others by reproof and admonition
of God
to chasten by the affliction of evils and calamities
to chastise with blows, to scourge
of a father punishing his son
of a judge ordering one to be scourged
Take your pick as to how "discipline" should be interpreted from theGreek.
serena williams was baptised as a jehovah's witness last year.
photo: pa. .
john mulligan.
UPDATE: Telephoned the Public Information Department of the Britain Branch of JW's.
Asked them:
a) Is the story true?
Response: "I can't comment on a story I haven't read. Send us an email with your questions."
b) Does the org still own the building?
Response: "If you send us an email with your questions, we will consider them."
Public Information Department???????? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He was more concerned with finding out who I was, rather than answering questions from the public.
If a registered charity responds like that, perhaps the Charity Commission should review their charity status.
serena williams was baptised as a jehovah's witness last year.
photo: pa. .
john mulligan.
It's one thing the media putting out fake stories, but when ex-JW's copy & paste them into "apostate" forums, it merely gives the cult ammunition to use against those of us who have woken up.
serena williams was baptised as a jehovah's witness last year.
photo: pa. .
john mulligan.
I suspect this is FAKE NEWS and should be deleted.
There ISN'T a Branch in Ireland - it was sold off several years ago and Ireland is now under the U.K. Branch.