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  How Do JWs Understand Salvation & What Is Needed to Obtain It?

  by LauraLynn in

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  2. beliefs

  from my experience within the jw organization, i understood that salvation meant a person accepted the teachings of the wbts without question as the "faithful and discrete slave," thereby placing their trust in them, not jesus christ.

  salvation consisted of being found "righteous" by jehovah and resurrected to everlasting life in an earthly paradise.

  to obtain this salvation, one needed to obey the organization's teachings, remain a faithful jw, and lead a moral life.

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  Nope - still exactly the same!

  JW.Borg/G.B. is still the "golden calf" to be worshipped.
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  What the org SAYS, but what it really MEANS!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  w16 april p. 9 par.

  17 being faithful gullible leads to god’s the cult's approval - thousands of young christian men and women are willingly sacrificing marriage or are not having children - at least for now - in order to serve jehovah the borg to the full.

  older ones too may be sacrificing the time they could otherwise spend with their children and grandchildren in order to work on theocratic construction projects supply free labour or to attend the school for kingdom evangelizers receive deeper indoctrination and to serve in areas where the need for kingdom publishers more suckers is greater.

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  w16 April p. 9 par. 17 Being Faithful Gullible Leads to God’s the Cult's Approval - Thousands of young Christian men and women are willingly sacrificing marriage or are not having children - at least for now - in order to serve Jehovah the Borg to the full. Older ones too may be sacrificing the time they could otherwise spend with their children and grandchildren in order to work on theocratic construction projects supply free labour or to attend the School for Kingdom Evangelizers receive deeper indoctrination and to serve in areas where the need for Kingdom publishers more suckers is greater. Would it be possible for you to make additional sacrifices to serve Jehovah the cult more fully?
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  JW Vaccine mandate: The contrast between voices of reason and confusion

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was reading an intriguing post on the exjw reddit, a forum i do not with to sign up for, as i'm not interested in the internal politics of reddit.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1hwlja8/the_governing_bodys_letter_that_shook_bethel_and/.

  another post counteracted this one, driven by the "conspiracy theory" card.

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  My instincts about the Borg's directives regarding the experimental injections were/are that the Governing Body was instructed by the masters of the WTBTS to promote and comply with all of the government's mandates and alleged "science" - to the point of "forsaking their meeting together," (Hebrews 10:25)

  Some parts of "Babylon the Great" continued their worship - and "obeyed God rather than men."

  I suspect the real hierarchy within the WTBTS (not the JW G.B. puppets) are more closely aligned with "the system" than is realised.

  
  
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  Beliefs clarified - A big fat WTF for 2025

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah’s witnesses have an official page for clarified beliefs they encourage elders, ministerial servants, regular pioneers, as well as all the rest of the elite, to keep up to date with:.

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200277174.

  2025 has a curious clarification:.

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  "Beliefs clarified." 🤣

  More accurate = Reversal of "truths."
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  Who's got it wrong - Daniel or the evil slave?

  by BoogerMan in

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  w98 2/1 p. 22 par.

  16 - "what of the dead who are resurrected on earth?...they also will have to love the name of jehovah, ministering to him, offering acceptable sacrifices......".

  (daniel 9:26, 27) "and after the 62 weeks, mes·siʹah will be cut off, with nothing for himself.....and at the half of the week, he will cause sacrifice......to cease.

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  w98 2/1 p. 22 par. 16 - "What of the dead who are resurrected on earth?...They also will have to love the name of Jehovah, ministering to him, offering acceptable sacrifices......"

  (Daniel 9:26, 27) "And after the 62 weeks, Mes·siʹah will be cut off, with nothing for himself.....and at the half of the week, he will cause sacrifice......to cease."
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  For 57 years JW's were compelled to accept this BLASPHEMY as TRUTH

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  namely, that the org & its elite group of "anointed" christians had usurped christ's role.

  thank you so much, faithful evil slave!

  by their fruits............... for lurking jw's: how many org "truths" have you seen reversed during your life?.

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  Namely, that the org & its elite group of "anointed" Christians had usurped Christ's role.

  Thank you so much, faithful evil slave! By their fruits..............

  For lurking JW's: How many org "truths" have you seen reversed during your life?

  w52 11/15 p. 678 Marking Those Who Sigh and Cry - "In times past it was thought that the man in linen with the writer’s inkhorn by his side pictured a certain individual in modern times...Rather, all the facts indicate that this man in linen with a writer’s inkhorn by his side pictures or represents the body of faithful anointed Christians..... and who are working together under divine direction as the “faithful and discreet slave”.

  kj chap. 9 p. 172 pars. 24-26 - "On July 30, 1931 "Vindication (Volume I) was released. It said, on pages 99, 100, under the subheading “Man with Inkhorn,” the following: "The man with the writer’s inkhorn by his side,’ therefore, clearly represented the anointed “servant” class of the Lord on earth,......Thus these dedicated, anointed followers of Jesus....were very grateful that their God, Jehovah, had definitely revealed to them the work for them to do as indicated in the vision to Ezekiel concerning the man “clothed with linen, with a secretary’s inkhorn at his hips.” They were highly elated at the prospect....of marking the foreheads of those who were to be spared..."

  w72 1/15 p. 46 - 48 Has the King’s Secretary Called on You Recently? - "Hence, for our day, the visionary man “clothed with linen, with a secretary’s inkhorn at his hips,” must picture a modern composite man, that is, a united group of men,....Such is the King’s secretary of our day......It is that small body of dedicated, baptized Christians who, in the year 1931, recognized the impending destruction of Christendom and therefore the need for the work of the “man clothed with the linen” to be done in its modern application.....On Sunday, July 26, 1931, this convention of spirit-anointed Christians embraced as a distinguishing name for themselves as Christians the designation “Jehovah’s witnesses.” Not just the name, but the work carried out by them since then proves that this anointed remnant of Christian witnesses of the Most High God are unmistakably the twentieth-century fulfillment of the man “clothed with linen, with a secretary’s inkhorn.”

  w83 12/15 p. 17 par. 6 - "Today there is only a small remnant of the members of the “royal priesthood”...These serve together as the figurative linen-clad man, who does the marking of worthy ones in their foreheads."

  w88 9/15 p. 14 par. 18 - "The antitypical ‘man in linen’ is the class of anointed Christians."

  w16 June pp. 16-17 Questions From Readers - Whom do the man with the secretary’s inkhorn and the six men with smashing weapons described in Ezekiel’s vision symbolize? "They picture heavenly forces that were involved in the destruction of Jerusalem and that will also be involved in the destruction of Satan’s wicked system at Armageddon. Why is this adjusted understanding reasonable? In the past, we have explained (insisted!) that in the modern-day fulfillment of this vision, the man with the secretary’s inkhorn represented the anointed remnant. It was thought that those who respond favorably to the message being preached are now marked for survival. In recent years, however, it has become clear that an adjustment needs to be made to this explanation. According to what is stated at Matthew 25:31-33, Jesus is the one who judges people. He makes his final judgment during the time of the great tribulation, separating the sheeplike ones, who will survive, from the goatlike ones, who will be destroyed. So in light of this adjusted understanding, what lessons do we learn from Ezekiel’s vision?"

  How do you "adjust" a blasphemy to make it a truth? 🤣
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  Is Jesus the Creator?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  that's what the word says.

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  colossians 1:16. for by him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through him and for him..

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  Hebrews 1:6 - "...and when again He may bring in the first-born to the world, He saith, 'And let them bow before him -- all messengers of God." (YLT)

  Many Bible translators appear to have a penchant for inserting the word "worship" whenever the Greek word προσκυνέω appears. (Proskyneō)

  Definition: Proskyneō - in the NT by kneeling or prostration to do homage (to one) or make obeisance, whether in order to express respect or to make supplication, used of homage shown to men and beings of superior rank.

  The NWT does it as well:

  (Revelation 19:10) "At that I fell down before his feet to worship him. But he tells me: “Be careful! Do not do that! I am only a fellow slave of you and of your brothers who have the work of witnessing concerning Jesus."

  (Revelation 22:8) "Well I, John, was the one hearing and seeing these things. When I heard and saw them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing me these things."

  Are we to believe that an apostle of Christ would try to worship an angel - twice???????? Or was he trying to exhibit -

  Obeisance - a movement of the body expressing deep respect or deferential courtesy, as before a superior; a bow, curtsy, or other similar gesture.
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  Annual Report

  by St George of England in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the latest report is now available for download on our favourite website!.

  george.

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  "Lies, damned lies, and statistics." The JW.BORG business model relies & thrives on all three!
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  The CHRISTIANITY gravy-train mob......

  by BoogerMan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  .......and one or two other lucrative individuals!

  https://www.heraldweekly.com/meet-the-wealthiest-religious-leaders-in-the-world/61?xcmg=1&_d=d.

  happy to be fleecing the sheep who leave the folds of the multi-billion dollar "established" empires - like wtbts..

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  .......and one or two other lucrative individuals!

  https://www.heraldweekly.com/meet-the-wealthiest-religious-leaders-in-the-world/61?xcmg=1&_d=d

  Happy to be fleecing the sheep who leave the folds of the multi-billion dollar "established" empires - like WTBTS.
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  New light on including people you have rejected for 27 yrs😳

  by dinosarentreal in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can anyone point me in the direction of articles to read about the “new light” about hanging out with family members who are not believers?

  i left when i was 20, i was disfellowshipped for five years, went back to it for family and left again shortly after.

  i never got disfellowshipped again so that i could talk to my parents.

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  Look for the 2024 JW Annual Meeting on Youtube.

  You should find all the info you need.