dear sister.
i love you, you are a fine friend to me and have stood beside me in all adversity.
i know you need to hear this right now.
But Bigboi -- "wanker" implies they have something to wank. And these guys, well, the only thing they have to beat -- is a keyboard
bigboi wrote: "Personally, I think wanker was a more than apt description."
the best to you guy!
the enigmatic Pete2
Edited by - Pete2 on 3 November 2002 12:27:46
vernon jordan is a very close friend of william jefferson clinton, former president of the united states.
in america, mostly due to media interest in president clinton's personal life during his administration, the average american knows what jordan looks like but little else.
vernon jordan -- until the publication of this book, anyway -- is not well known.
Hey larc, it's Pete2, remember me? One of your favorite people!
I don't understand your objection to TJ's analogy.
A house is a rigid structure that has be disassembled. A person as an organism, can modify itself slowly over time.
Why can't one make a metaphor of a house being a living organism? A house seems to grow from the earth. Some believe a house contains the energies and memories of those who have lived in it. Isn't it creative to draw parallels -- a childhood; a house -- between a good foundation and a bad one?
Here's a few examples of what I mean.
The poet May Swenson wrote:
Body my house
my horse my hound
what will I do
when you are fallen
Or how about George Fox, founder of the Society of Friends (Quakers):
"The Lord showed me ... his people were his temple, and he dwelt in them.
And as the Italians say: "sistemare i propri affari" (set your house -- or life -- in order). Which probably comes from 2nd Kings 20:1 -- "Set thine house in order."
And ol' Abe Lincoln said about the Civil War, "A house divided cannot stand." Once again referring to scripture.
And since we're on the subject of the Bible, don't forget Pro. 9:1 -- "Wisdom hath builded her house, she hath hewn out her seven pillars."
And of course, there's Jesus' parable at Mt. 7: 24 -- 27, that those who listened to his sayings were likened to the man who built his house upon the rock mass; those that built them on sand were likened to fools.
(Too much Bible? I could have used a more extensive secular education.)
Anyway this is getting too long, gotta go. Gotta think outside the box/ bun / cheese sandwich, baby!
My tuppence.
the enigmatic Pete2
vernon jordan is a very close friend of william jefferson clinton, former president of the united states.
in america, mostly due to media interest in president clinton's personal life during his administration, the average american knows what jordan looks like but little else.
vernon jordan -- until the publication of this book, anyway -- is not well known.
TJ, you are one special guy. How is your precious little girl?
Loved your post ... I, too, have often wondered "what if?"
I now have a mantra that goes: "Don't look back; deal with today; and trust going forward!"
The best to you, TJ.
the enigmatic Pete2
i think she was the one who gave up a tv career in favor of being a jw.
confirmed on yahoo news:.
thu oct 10,10:24 am et.
What a tragedy. After all she had "given up," you'd think YHWH would have would have had her puppy pull the plug on that space heater. But no!
The alleged first TV interracial kiss was between her and Ringo Starr in the late '60s. I recall seeing it happen on Laugh-In. Also, after Christy Love, she married a brother who was a L.A. busdriver.
Too bad she passed up her chance to kick it when she could.
Pete2
this morning as i was waiting for my ride into work, i was looking at the trees in my neighborhood.
i don't know what kind of trees they are, but some look like steeples.
i remembered how we were taught that church steeples were like phallic symbols pointing up into jehovah's nose.
If a church spire is a phallic symbol, then I pity the poor guys who live in Chesterfield.
Englishman, I'm a bit naive, but is Chesterfield where the word "screw" originated?
Regarding that Watchtower stuff about church steeples -- it's all a phallacy.
Pete2
in a congregation some years ago, the elders had a major issue to deal with.
a transexxual woman became interested in studying the bible with the witnesses.
she was invited to go to the meetings.
She was told that if she had to use the bathroom, she could only go in the men's room because
ultimately, before God, she was still a man. She then left, and left for good.
Yeah! and I bet she was really pissed!
... and ya' know I heard -- while out in service -- that "transgender-ism" can be caught from a toilet seat!
Pete2
since i was a believer from the earliest of my memories, i spent my formative academic years not thinking or caring much about my future.
although 1975 (armageddon / the end of the world / jehovah's judgment) was still a year away, as a naive, dumbass teenager it was looming very large on my radar screen.
besides *that*, my best jw buddy got baptized in february of that year.
Hey TeeJay -- long time, no type!
My tuppence: Yes, it may very well be that the people you mention are racists (although they might not see themselves as such). Where there is power and fear -- there can be suspicion, hatred and cruelty.
But there can be wisdom in not making assumptions about minor unpleasantries. Their behavior speaks volumes about who they are -- some people are JERKS! If their behavior doesn't reach the level of you having a good chance at a lawsuit -- why spin your wheels. We live in an unfair world. Don't sweat the small stuff. Instead, love your family and love your friends in a big way!
And as a wise woman once told me: "It's not what they call you -- it's what you answer to."
Big hugs guy!
Pete
does god exist?
god is evidenced by his creation, his word, and the relationship that believers have with him.
sadly, i notice that a lot of former jws either do not believe in god or believe in some false god of the nations.
Does God exist? Well, I was vacationing in the Pacific Northwest when one morning on a hike I stumbled upon God sitting on a camp chair having a sandwich. And who was sitting next to him? Big Foot! And that's not all. They were soon joined by Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. Hey, saw it with my own eyes!
Pete2
i was going to respond to isps topic on preventing homosexuality dr. j nicolosi, but due to its number of responses, decided to start a new topic.. nicolosi's comments were prominently referred to in the three 1995 awake!
articles about homosexuality in the "young people ask" section.
i had just come out recently and read the articles.
Nicolosi is also the darling of the right-wing fundamentalists. Even Nicolosi admited in an interview that homosexual desires are still present with alledged ex-gays -- they're supposed to "suppress" them and sublimate with a vagina while they fantasize about men. You know, the old "there is no elephant in the livingroom."
Pete2
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/26/obituaries/26harr.html.
barbara grizzuti harrison, who emerged as a popular, prolific writer of keenly observed nonfiction with a 1978 book about the dozen years she spent as a jehovah's witness, died on wednesday at a hospice in manhattan.
she was 67 and lived in the park slope neighborhood of brooklyn.. the cause was chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, said her daughter, anna harrison.
I just read it in the NY Times (hardcopy). They gave her prominent space: above the fold with a pull quote and photo. What an amazing woman.
Pete
