i read this in the news on cnn's website today.
will the watchtower set it's dooms day clock back a few minutes?
what dou you think?.
Hey Apostate,
I didn't post it as if to imply that you should read all the boards & threads...so don't be sorry! :-)
I only posted it so that more people would get a chance to read it since the thread that you started was more appropriate to my post. I kinda used you....! LOL
What part of Canada are you from?
Cheers,
Peter Stride
Toronto, Canada
i read this in the news on cnn's website today.
will the watchtower set it's dooms day clock back a few minutes?
what dou you think?.
The following is something I posted earlier today under another thread "Latest News you won't see in Awake".
Just recently in the Toronto Star newspaper, I remember reading that in the past 15 years or so in Canada, while the crime rate has steadily dropped, the reporting of crime has increased somewhere on the order of 600%. An astounding figure.
Something else I had read (I can't remember where) was one reason for the rising crime rates during the 60s, 70s, and 80s in Canada (and I'm sure this could apply to the US as well). In the past, when a crime happenned, it wasn't collected into a national databank.
In the late 50s, it was decided to start keeping track of crime statistics. As you can imagine, these procedures were implemented with the large urban police stations first. Most Police Chiefs in small towns, didn't bother calling in their crime statistics. But, little by little, the new procedures were implementted and more and more police stations started callling in/mailing in their crime statistics.
Then arrived the computer, and as more and more towns and cities were wired, more and more crimes were reported, thus giving the impression that the crime rate was actually going up. In fact, all that was happenning was that the crime information statistics were being better reported and recorded in a yearly databank.
Once every police department in Canada was wired (which happenned sometime in the mid 80s) and no more new police stations came on-line...all of a sudden, crime rates started falling. Amazing!
Peter Stride
Toronto, Canada
among the headlines on yahoo!
this afternoon:.
crime survey shows largest drop ever in 2000.
Just recently in the Toronto Star newspaper, I remember reading that in the past 15 years or so in Canada, while the crime rate has steadily dropped, the reporting of crime has increased somewhere on the order of 600%. An astounding figure.
Something else I had read (I can't remember where) was one reason for the rising crime rates during the 60s, 70s, and 80s in Canada (and I'm sure this could apply to the US as well). In the past, when a crime happenned, it wasn't collected into a national databank.
In the late 50s, it was decided to start keeping track of crime statistics. As you can imagine, these procedures were implemented with the large urban police stations first. Most Police Chiefs in small towns, didn't bother calling in their crime statistics. But, little by little, the new procedures were implementted and more and more police stations started callling in/mailing in their crime statistics.
Then arrived the computer, and as more and more towns and cities were wired, more and more crimes were reported, thus giving the impression that the crime rate was actually going up. In fact, all that was happenning was that the crime information statistics were being better reported and recorded in a yearly databank.
Once every police department in Canada was wired (which happenned sometime in the mid 80s) and no more new police stations came on-line...all of a sudden, crime rates started falling. Amazing!
Peter Stride
Toronto, Canada
here is some sage advice from the wtbts!
on page 23 of the may 15th, 2001 watchtower, in an article entitled 'building a spiritually strong family' paragraph 9 says the following.. there are dozens of magazines, hundreds of books, and thousands of internet websites offering advice on how to rear children.
very often "the information conflicts" says a newsweek special issue on children.
They accuse others of not having the proper information, when it is they themselves that don't have it.
As the saying goes: when someone is guilty of something, he'll accuse someone else of that crime, mirroring that off of someone else so that they don't feel as bad about it themselves.
Simply amazing how the WTS doesn't see itself for what it really is. Amazing and sad since they control the lives of so many people, most of whom really want to serve god.
Peter Stride
Toronto, Canada
"the first person to wish me a happy birthday gets dropped in the alligator moat," said prince as he walked into a conference room thursday at paisley park.. the story can be found at:.
http://watchtower.observer.org/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?nocache=1&dato=20010612&kategori=news2&lopenr=10612002&ref=ar.
yakki da.
Wow...I can't believe that JWs are now allowed to vote, or should I say, that the WTS now says that it's a personal matter. When I grew up in the Borg, voting viewed like the taking of a blood transfusion. Wait...now, they're allowing many blood components to be taken in a transfusion...
The ever changing doctrines/rules/regulations of the WTS just keep on changing. And they want to call it new light!
Peter Stride
Toronto, Canada
at this late, middle stage of my life, i've started wondering, now that i know what i know, about the things in my life that i "lived" with.
having been raised all my life in the "borg" i have known nothing else.
when questions began forming years ago, it started me thinking.
Hi all (and Cathy too),
Us ex-JWs need this support group because we didn't come out of a religion. We came out of a cult. I only realized that after reading a book on cults (and researching it on the internet) and realized that the WTS is a cult in every sense of the word.
In Cathy's previous posting, she said:
I have serious doubts about my abilities in this regard as well... I am filled with self-doubt, always apologizing, always worried about who the next person is going to be in my life to abandon me. It is very uncomfortable to live each day in worry and fear, and I don't know when that will end for me. I'm really happy that I found this site though, its become a type of therapy to me to read all your experiences and appreciate all your friendship! Thanks,
Cathy
The same goes for me also...therapy!
Peter Stride
Toronto, Canada
hi special fried chipmonks.. can anyone help me try and prove to my dad that just because jw's teach a lot of good and do get a lot of things right(mainly common sense, i might add) that this does not mean that you can ignore the things they have got wrong, the kind of things that could prove that they are not who they say or think they are!!.
he is great at reasoning the existence of god but when it comes to defending jdubs he is blinkered.. i try to tell him that 'isn't it a coinsidence that you were born into the 'truth', or is it that every child thinks that it's parents are right!!'..
also he says that you shouldn't spend so much time trying to prove it's correctness but put faith in it.
I've come across the same problem too...JWs saying to look at all the good they are doing. I've tried telling them that many Christian religions also do a lot of good deeds...but to no avail.
Most JWs are so brainwashed (including myself for many years before waking up and breaking free of the alleged "truth") that the WTS can do no wrong. Sad, very sad.
Peter Stride
Toronto, Canada
if jewish males at the time of christ were in the military at the age of twenty, and jesus fulfilled the law, then jesus would have had to become a part of that military when he was 20 also right????
military at 20 (we are two years too early here in the states) and start up the ole ministry at 30. he had his career all planned out, did he retire from the military (20-50yrs) or was he just a reserve like those military reservists down in ole mexico (jdub types).???
?buff
Again, this is something that as a JW I never thought about. Wow, imagine if Jesus had served in the millitary. If it was compulsary for Jewish males to serve in the millitary, then it's a safe bet to say that Jesus also served. Wow...
Peter
the watchtower society has long-established habits of half-truths,.
misquotations, and deception.
the subject of the flag-salute is.
Wow...I never realized that the society (including its oracle, Freddy) changed the bible again to have it say what they wanted to say. I guess this was all part of making the JWs feel separate from the world so that they stick together for comfort and support from the harsh, wordly people that just don't understand them.
Wow.
Peter
man it's good to be home, relaxed and de-stressing right now!
how many times today, i just wanted to say aaaaarrrrrrgggggghhhh!!!!
at my circuit's one-day assembly.
I'm in Toronto also, and other than a couple of people that I met, I couldn't find any ex-JWs here. Are there any support groups set up for ex-JWs in Toronto that may still be going through withdrawal symptoms? Feel free to e-mail me.
Peter
