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  Wanting to speak to someone

  by Smokey in

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  i was a former member now in order to be included with family, i am a non-attender for about 14 yearsi really hate to hear all the damage and mind altering things that go on with this cult.

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  Sword of Jah - I respectfully have to disagree with you on this one. Too many times, people who are not within the "in" crowd regardless of their "zeal" for the truth are used as an example....

  I know this was especially true in my case, and that along with other circumstances, left me with scars that took 15 years to even try to heal. Tell smokey here what you will, but that point was not true. Maybe in your KH - I don't know. I find that different KH's have different personalities. But, if you've been reading here, there are alot of KH's where obviously wrongs were committed so as to "stumble" someone, and NO actions were ever taken to rectify the situation.

  I'm sure there are alot of good, warm loving elders - I don't deny there are many within that faith who are people who truly care. But, there are just as many, if not more, who banter their titles like a crown, and do not REALLY attend to the needs of their flocks.
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  Am I damaging the silentlambs cause?

  by Simon in

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  one of the few unfounded (i think) accusations that have been thrown at me by certain people is that i have caused 'untold damage' to the silentambs cause.. i don't know quite what this is supposed to mean or what i'm suppoed to have done or whether it is anything more than just 'mud' flung by people who find it easier to criticise rather than actually do anything.. over the last year (is it?

  ) i've been happy to promote the silentlambs cause and have hosted links to bills site and vidoes / sound files of tv programmes, radio reports, photo's of the march etc... as well as providing a place for people to meet and arrange things.

  i hope it has been useful and helpful to at least some people.. if i have inadventantly held things up in some way then i unreservedly and wholeheartedly apologise.. all i can say is, i do my best and may not always get things right.

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  I think I know where those insults come from Simon - I believe them to be pure BULL!!!! Made up by someone who seems to be incredibly arrogant & self-absorbed.

  I think you have done as much for this cause as anyone (except the courageous ones who have spoken out such as at the March).

  I think there are some who like to throw insults just to throw insults, so piss on um!!! Let um take their potshots Simon - they can't hold a candle to your pinky toe.
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  Wanting to speak to someone

  by Smokey in

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  i was a former member now in order to be included with family, i am a non-attender for about 14 yearsi really hate to hear all the damage and mind altering things that go on with this cult.

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  Smokey - welcome to this board - may you find some peace & comfort here!!!

  Yes, it is extremely difficult when those you love choose to shun you based on religious beliefs. There are some good articles on tim campbells board (www.beyondjw.com) that deal with this very issue - I think you will find them interesting and a worthwhile read as well.

  Keep posting! You're a very strong person to have come this far.
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  Lets blame the belief system

  by A Paduan in

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  i've just been reading a post about elders, and how the 'belief system' is the blame.

  talk about an extension of jwism.. "but the woman you gave me".. each and every jw that told lies at someone's door, actually "told lies at someone's door".

  simple as that.

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  JT - I was born into the JW's, but I did have a non-JW for a father.

  DF'd at 16
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  No You Know: Top Ten Theories

  by Duncan in

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  like lots of readers here, i take an entirely unhealthy interest in the doings of our resident prophet you know.

  i notice that he's not been around for a month or two and this is a time of year he loves, he's always prophesying something for october!

  so, why the silence?

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  lol Duncan - I was just wondering where You Know went myself!!!!

  Can't add anything to your list thought -i'm not creative! Thanks for the laugh!
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  Lets blame the belief system

  by A Paduan in

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  i've just been reading a post about elders, and how the 'belief system' is the blame.

  talk about an extension of jwism.. "but the woman you gave me".. each and every jw that told lies at someone's door, actually "told lies at someone's door".

  simple as that.

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  Padaun - excellent point. Although most persons born into the JW religion didn't know anything else, there still must be some responsibility taken in hindsight. Although the behavior, thoughts, feelings are "justified", at the point of recovery, once must also be able to look back and say "I was that person, and I did those things".

  I would suggest its nothing different then children currently being born & raised in beliefs to "hate America". For their entire childhood, they are "groomed" to hate & destroy. As they get older, they have the "opportunity" to view the situation for themselves, but most do not, even if they come to this country for whatever the reason. They still must be held accountable for any actions they take.

  Now, I am not comparing JW's to terrorists - just merely pointing out that brainwashing is not a condusive argument to all actions that one takes.
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  Things JWs don't say

  by WildTurkey in

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  lets post somethings as a dub you dont say:.

  luck, you dont say party, its a get together.

  you dont go to church, its a hall

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  **** ***

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  & Hell - can't say that either (unless of course it is necessary

  - which is why as children we LOVED talking about Hell, Michigan) !
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  BARCODE AND HIS EXPLANATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

  by enricofrassinetti in

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  dear brothers and sisters of the world.

  excuse me always for my broken english.

  i have seen many discussions in this forum, about the barcode, but want specify, that is only symbolically that i speak when i say that is the barcode the mark of the beast 666. .

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  How will creating a new coin change the economic barcoding system -

  You would be better off my dear to just start bartering only amongst the JW's for "free" with no exchange of currency whatsoever, if this is what your post suggests, getting away from Satan's economic control of humanity. Means you'll have to live without a few creature comforts, but that should be okay....
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  Jw role during armageddon

  by Realist in

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  i have a quick question.... what will be the role of the jw duing the great tribulation (after the un starts to wipe out all religion on earth) ?

  i was talking to a jw and he said the jws will do something no one expects!

  ...uh hu spooky spooky...does any one know what he was talking about?.

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  Personally, some I KNOW will be running to whatever house they decided in field service they would like after Armageddon (I actually have heard this) to make sure it doesn't get destroyed.

  "Their eyes will merely see it as neath God's wings they'll reside"? (song from the KH) Sounds like total pacifism to me

  But, I think more likely, they will mourn for those they love who are gone, and then do the happy dance.
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  The Pot Calling the Kettle Black

  by IslandWoman in

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  i wonder sometimes if to outsiders who visit this and other xjw discussion boards it seems as if xjws never "bought the farm" and that's why they look down on those who did.

  there is much ridicule of the rank and file here, why?

  if we placed literature, conducted a bible study, brought a bible study to the point of baptism, gave talks, commented at the watchtower study, volunteered,

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  I have to agree with Farkel - their god is a "nazi" god.....how many accounts in the bible did God purposefully destroy thousands of individuals of one particular nationality, all in the name of "true religion". How many innocent men, women & children did he allow to be killed, sacrificed etc. etc. all with the soul purpose of "making an example" for his followers?

  JW's say their God is a God of love, who only destroys the unrighteous & the sinful......The entire bible has story after story of him doing something quite opposite.