in november in wasilla, alaska, duane carr was sentenced to 28 months in prison for sexually molesting his 15-year-old babysitter.
carr maintained that he did not know the girl was under the legal age of 16 because he and the girl are jehovah's witnesses, whose members do not celebrate birthdays.
yakki da.
LOL.
But seriously, If I was a court judge, I would find it hard to sentence some of the people who have sex with 15 years olds, or where the law was 18 years, 17 years olds. Should they have asked for two forms of ID to prove their age as they fumbled about for a condom?
philo
the october 1 watchtower 2001 features articles on training children "properly" and dealing with a "prodigal child.
the latest inside u.s. figures reveal that 86% of jw children leave the fold, with some 29% who eventually come back for reasons of family ties, most never "reaching out.
" that means over half leave permanently.
GULP!!
That was accute, Jan.
philo (who is only cute)
the october 1 watchtower 2001 features articles on training children "properly" and dealing with a "prodigal child.
the latest inside u.s. figures reveal that 86% of jw children leave the fold, with some 29% who eventually come back for reasons of family ties, most never "reaching out.
" that means over half leave permanently.
Thanks for another excellent post Maximus. Your thoughts here would benefit the society if it had the imagination to heed them. But it is probably for the best that they don't. Sometimes I picture you posting from a desk in Brooklyn! LOL.
The 'young ones' in the various congregations I knew voted with their feet in the majority. The ones who didn't were voted on with a judicial boot (DFd), and there was only a small minority who survived the 'dangers' of youth. I was of this shining minority.
philo
i was driving down the street the other day and seen a sign for a store the sign read.. "kocks liquor" .
i immediately had visions rolling about my head.
talk about roflmao.
On a dual-carriageway I once saw a sign with a letter 'V' missing. It read...
hehe
philo
hello britains .
i am trying to get as many uk posters to sign in.
so post up please, whether you love the queen's corgis or think they should be nationalised!.
Moe
The ruling British classes, once brought up quite ignorantly to view the rest of the world as their garden in the days of empire were also taught never to show their superiority, but it showed through all the same and got up educated people's noses. Something similar is there with modern Americans except that they are more open about it.
I don't know where this started, but the British have loved to make losers into their heroes; I think it goes way further back than socialism. Americans are seens as winners: ww2 expressions like "over-sexed, over-paid, and over here" sum that up, and sneering at rich American tourists who want to 'take in' England in a week, these are the winners 'we' resent.
It's provbably not about Americans and Britain though, Britains and Irish, Russians and Georgians, Germans and Austrians, Spaniards and Catalonians - such resentments are smouldering in the embers of every empire.
philo
hello all: recall how the wts harped on "crime" as the 'love of the greater number cooling off' and the growing 'lawlessness' and so forth as part of the "composite" sing of the last days.. crime is down all over the world, except for some pockets.
and as one piece of evidence, here is today's headline from the new york times:.
"who ever thought crime would go down?
I heard on BBC radio a while back that the crime rate increases of the UK's 1980s have been shown not to be about crime at all, they were a result of computerisation and centralised record keeping (as more districts got connected), So crime stayed the same but recorded crime increased so ominously from the WT view. Puff goes another WT red herring.
philo
during the same weekend conversation which stimulated my recollection of "1975 stockpiling", i also recalled the "vietnam war pioneer" phenomenon -at least that's what i call it.
i thought i would post something about it to see if others remember this.. during the 1960s, when the draft started to supply troops for the vietnam "conflict", a phenomenon developed in our area, at least, and i'm wondering if this occurred nationwide?
(i can't remember if this was officially handled in the mags and from the stage, or if it was just another one of those things that was affected quietly behind the scenes.).
MA
Just wondering whether the world-wide peaks from 1970-75 which Ray Franz talks about in the context of the society's false expectations may have been partly caused by the extra field activity of these draft-dodging pioneers. I would not know how to separate the two factors, namely, raised expectations and increased field activity, because they are so connected, i.e., dodgers may have thought Vietnam was the beginning of Armageddon or the Big Trib. But I doubt that the end of Vietnam (did the USA lose?) could have caused the worldwide ebb of 1976 (3.7%), 1977 (-1.0%), and 1978 (-1.4).
If there were growth figures on-line for the US, it would be interesting to compare them with the world's to see if there was disproportionate growth there. Does anybody have those US figures (say from 1966-75), or know where to get them on-line?
philo
(I just know there's a dirty joke in this...hmmm...somewhere)
hello britains .
i am trying to get as many uk posters to sign in.
so post up please, whether you love the queen's corgis or think they should be nationalised!.
Nik, I never would compare them. It's just a case of needing something in the daytime, and another in the evenings.
philo
those of us who are in the ranks of dedicated witnessess what are you doing or plan to do to influence the world around you spiritaully?
like swelling our ranks or being a personal demonstration of the truth?
My personal insight here, is that if more people would hum Barry Maniloe tunes as they went about, the world would be a better place.
philo
dear jw,.
i have some questions.
as i understand it, if armageddon came tomorrow, those that never heard the truth, in such places as india or china would either live through armageddon or die and be resurrected.
Good points Larc, the preaching is ultimately for the furtherance of the WTBTS, or rather for the furtherance of the preaching. Telling the 'good' news 'for the sake of the good news', a typically circular process; it's not about people at all. Individual JWs preach for their own salvation.
philo
