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  DNA - belief destuction

  by donkey in

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  the single largest reason to decimate my belief in jw?s and all biblical faith occurred when i discovered some facts about our cells.

  specifically a part of the cell called mitochondria.

  mitochondria are sometimes described as "cellular power plants" because their primary purpose is to manufacture adenosine triphosphate (atp), which is used as a source of energy that the cell uses.. as humans one inherits one?s mitochondria only from one's mother, this finding implies that all living humans have a female line of descent from a woman whom researchers have dubbed mitochondrial eve.

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  A christian sounds just like a christian. Flip flop.

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  What would have to change for you to come back?

  by _Atlas in

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  to those who have conscientiously walked away:.

  what changes will at least make you consider coming back in?.

  of course some will say nothing they do will lure them back?

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  Hi Atlas. Do you have a contract with the wbts to determine what modifications are needed to stop the drain of publishers in so many countries?

  Or is it mainly to get the apostates to return and stop the negative information they are so glad to distribute?

  For me they would have to supply to me all the love affection and happiness that would have existed if it had not been destroyed by the wbts disfellowshipping policies.

  If they are unwilling or unable to deliver what they took away from me, I would rather see them disintigrate and disappear from the face of the earth as they are gnashing their teeth. As birds eat the eyes out of their sockets and fire and brimstone destroys their buildings and the inhabitants.

  You know, pretty much what they hope happens to me and the rest of the world.

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  I hear this crap all the time!

  by Schizm in

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  the person that co-wrote johnny cash's song ring of fire died just yesterday.

  his name is merle kilgore.

  together, he and june carter cash come up with that song.

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  Is there life after death?? Or is there not??

  Do we have a soul?? Or do we not??

  No one can prove these questions one way or the other.

  Do we or do we not? No one knows.

  There is no proof one way or the other.

  Of course we can believe and often do believe the unprovable.

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  Two types of elder?????

  by chuckyy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  its my experience after actually being an elder for a number of years that there are in fact...two types of elder.. type 1....genuine, actually cares about the people in the congregation and wasn't actually bothered too much if he became an elder or not.. type 2....very legalistic, cares more about organizational laws rather than people and lacks compassion and empathy.

  this type is more of a spiritual policeman.

  he wanted desperately to be an elder and now that he is, he loves the sense of power and prestige.. this has been my experience and if there are more type 2 elders on a body, the results can be disastrous.. what has been your experience???

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  I thought you may be a newbie to Boise. That bunch over in Meridian are like a pack of wolves, they look for someone to attack and have a very attorney like personality.

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  Two types of elder?????

  by chuckyy in

  1. jw
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  its my experience after actually being an elder for a number of years that there are in fact...two types of elder.. type 1....genuine, actually cares about the people in the congregation and wasn't actually bothered too much if he became an elder or not.. type 2....very legalistic, cares more about organizational laws rather than people and lacks compassion and empathy.

  this type is more of a spiritual policeman.

  he wanted desperately to be an elder and now that he is, he loves the sense of power and prestige.. this has been my experience and if there are more type 2 elders on a body, the results can be disastrous.. what has been your experience???

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  Hi Euphemism.

  I understand the congregation elders in Meridian have stumbled many and the congregation is having problems.

  Or is it the elders that are having problems?

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  My email to CBS Morning News about the JW PSA

  by BONEZZ in

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  when i first saw the jw psa i fired an email off to cbs.

  this was my second email to them.

  i haven't been up early enough lately to see if they ignored this one too but i'll check it out next week.

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  My thoughts exactly 006.

  Divide and conquer one or both.

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  Bringing Reproach Upon Jehovah

  by Sunspot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as jws we heard this over and over again.

  we still see this phrase used time and time again on this board.

  what, exactly does this mean to you and how do you think it is applied or should be applied?.

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  If we are to look at the overall actions of the wbts and their demands, then look at the results.

  All the false prophets, all the deaths due to no blood transfusions, all the deaths due to no organ transplants for a while.

  Then the crushing loses both emotionally and financially due to the failed prophecies.

  The families and marriages broken up and destroyed. Due to shunning.

  The wbts has brought more REPROACH on God than any of the current time religions combined

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  Declining Meeting Attendance-CO visit

  by TheListener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so we have our circuit overseer this week.

  we're getting the crap kicked out of us (figuratively) for our meeting attendance.

  we have attendance in the 70% range for some of our meetings.

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  Yeah I remember that 1953 Yankee stadium torture.

  I was 17 drove family the all the way from San Diego Calif.

  Got my pocket picked on the elevated train system.

  Got sick on a very hot day drinking Dr. Pepper.

  Can hardly remember the drive back.

  Do remember stopping in a small town with a small river, to eat.

  The calif. car license drew about 3 or 4 local teen age girls to the water.

  Got to flirt with them a little until I was drug away from the "evil ones".

  That flirting I do remember. About the only fun thing on the whole trip.

  I recall a rather pathetic or funny event. Everyone had copies of the watchtower in their rear windows

  so we would be noticed. At one of the stops there was this couple in their thirties, both jw's the lady started talking about how Jehovah delivers us from evil. Said she would like to see something go wrong on this trip just so she could see jehovah deliver them from satan.

  Sure enough about 25 miles down the road they had an auto crash and she was walking around with this foolish smile on her face.

  Even at 17 I knew she was crazy and said so. This pissed my mom off.

  Isn't life interesting??

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  Forbidden Pleasures

  by mtbatoon in

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  after leaving, what (excluding the obvious bit of slap and tickle) is your favourite forbidden pleasure.

  for me black pudding, full of bloody goodness

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  My life is much like it was when I was a jw. With a few exceptions. I no longer obey the wbts, I make my own decisions as to whom I may or may not associate with.

  I don't waste time going to useless talks at kingdumb halls or conventions.

  I no longer worry about what the elders think of me.

  I no longer try to decipher the real meanings of the watchtower and the ongoing threat of the end "mine" is very near.

  I no longer knock on the doors of people who have many times said "I am not interested I have my own religion".

  I enjoy sex without guilt.

  Surprisingly I now have friends who are more my friend than some of my relatives.

  I am a less angry man now with more love for my fellow man.

  I am at last at peace with the world and what might or might not happen after death.

  My financial position is much better.

  My health has improved. Both mental and physical.

  I am happy! Think of it, after all these years as a jw I am finally happy.

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  Men O Pause...

  by Country Girl in

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  i think i am goin through it.

  can someone else tell me when, how long etc that you go through this?

  my symptoms are hot flashes, irritability, etc.

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  outoftheorg

  Well country girl, even though I am a man, I feel obliged to help you all I can.

  My wife is past menopause. However she still has "hot flashes".

  I find it is safer and life is more tranquil if I refer to the hot flashes as (POWER SURGES).

  Somehow that seems to sooth her mind and is safer for my shins.

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