After being told what the "gb says"
I said "f##k the gb"
This led to saying "you elders need the shit kicked out of you"
Things kinda went down hill from there.
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A Jehovah's Witness CANNOT Say These Words
by steve2 in.
in five words or less, please give examples of statements no jehovah's witness in good standing could ever say.
here are two examples:.
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Issues with claiming to be TFDS
by Check_Your_Premises ini submit the following for your thoughts and comments.
making the claim.
the single most significant problem i have with the jw doctrine, is that they claim that god chose them to be his earthly organization, to the exclusion of all others.
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These self proclaimed representatives of Jehovah, claim to be spirit directed in their decisions.
So one would expect that they would all arrive at the same conclusions on any given decision. Especially those of importance. Such as whether to live or die involving a blood transfusion.
Or telling people they must or must not do something, even if it results in beatings, imprisonment, or death.
Yet their council "the governing body" require a two thirds of the body vote, in order to change or institute a decision. Aren't all of the gb recieving the same directions?? What is going on here??
In this situation you could have a majority voting against their blood transfusion demands and still see it remain the same. Since they didn't reach the two thirds requirement.
This leaves us with the choice of, either SOME of the gb or ALL of the gb are NOT spirit directed. or the directive spirit is elusive and dangerous.
In Crisis of Conscience, R Franz tells us this actually has happened many times over.
Never trust a self professed expert OR PROPHET.
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Intelligent Design
by Delta20 inhey all,.
i am currently studying the topic of intelligent design (id).
basically the id theory is the revival of the teleological argument for the existance of a deity.
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I think that one of the things we often do not consider in our rigid statements about life and how and where it started and what started it, is.
What do we consider life to be? Isn't it usually considered life, if it somehow, some way resembles US AND WHAT WE KNOW about life here on THIS planet.
Could there be other forms of life, that we can not even see?
Could there be life on another planet that is in a different dimension, or here on this planet that are in a different dimension.
Could there be a form of life that does not even need a planet on which to live?
Could there be life so minute, that we can not detect it, or so large that we see it and do not recognize it as life? Is this earth a living entity?
Lots of questions, no answers.
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Intelligent Design
by Delta20 inhey all,.
i am currently studying the topic of intelligent design (id).
basically the id theory is the revival of the teleological argument for the existance of a deity.
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Quite often gardens are designed for a particular plant. We design aquariums for a specific fish and use particular plants to fit. However>
I don't "believe" anything anymore if it is about God or creation.
Since we can't prove our side or sides or disprove them.
I think there is a "possibility" that a supreme being exists. If so, he/she/it could use evoloution as the way to create. It is also "possible" he/she/it did not and "intelligent design" was the choice.
I don't know, you don't know, religion can't be trusted, scienitist's have made mistakes.
In light of all this ignorance "mine" I refuse to let it bother me. It is a non issue.
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I'm not being shunned any longer, and I planted the seed!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by AloneinOh ini called my parents last night.
" again, dad says, "huh, what are you talking about?
i know dad...but it's true.
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Hey AloneinOH that is really good news. Tread carefully now and let them digest this UN thing before YOU bring up any new scandals.
It really pleases me to know this site and we who post here, are a source of help in rebuilding families.
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1919 Cleansing
by IP_SEC inok, according to the rigcah, patdp, and ipalfam i and ii the jewish restoration prophecy fulfilled in 537 bc has an antitype in 1919 ad when the wt officers were released from prison.
this is obviously a central teaching of the slave.
they say they were exonerated of all the charges that caused them to go to prison, and because of their faith they were accepted as the slave at that time.
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I think the wbts is about to see another cleansing of a slightly different nature.
They are trying to do some of the same things that were done to Rutherford and his cohorts, to their own followers.
That is to stop the negative information on the internet from getting to the rank and file, by punishing and df''ing any and all who would spread this through the religion.
Publishing the flow of information negative to the the efforts of the US is what got Rutherford and his cohorts punished and in prison.
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No Ona. I have not read any strange books lately. Nothing other than what is on this forum????
That wouldn't cause these strange thoughts would it??
Nah.
Wait a minute, I do have a memory of reading some really strange stuff about numbers,dates,
everybody dying. Came from some outfit called itself wbts. They had a few old sexually starved demented old men came up with all this stuff.
Ya think that might have twisted my mind and caused this flash of light??
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Does anyone know why/how Ford ran ads in German Mags in 1944?
by IronGland inthe text reads:.
ford.. on the roads of europe, german ford trucks testify to the work of german industry.
the agile, reliable and easy to maintain ford truck will be a welcome help in solving the major tasks that await our continent after the war.
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A long time ago, I read where both Ford and some other US companies were uncertain of the outcome of ww2 and tried to cover their asses by keeping some ties to Germany just in case the allies lost the war to Germany. I think AT&T was one of the companies along with Ford and others.
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Hey Onacruse!!!!
I just figured out how we can win this war on terrorism and please most of the likes of Osam B. and his like.
We set up a rather strange religion/cult, somewhat like the wbts.
Then tell the terrorists if they will turn on their leaders, God ah no I mean Alah will give them Life on earth. Not in heaven and they will get 120 vestal virgins.
Or maybe we should make that 144. That number sounds good doesn't it.
It is two times 72. Wow this could have some hidden meaning huh??
Not the stingy 72 that Islam offers.
Whada you think, Huh.
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DA-ing Announcement in the Society's New Book
by Mark inthe society's new book 'organized to do jehovah's will', to be released in the congregations .
on the 20th of march, introduces a change in the df and da announcements.
announcements will read the same: "[name of person] is no longer one of jehovah's .
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I can see where this might cause a loss of publishers, if some view this as getting too hard with their laws and requirements.
There is an old saying in the legal system. "You can only police the population up to that point where they will no longer accept it".
Above that it starts anarchy and rebelling against the laws.
I wonder if we may see some of that in the jw rank and file?
I hope so.
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