well, in my case anyway.
for those of you that may recall my posts about my family and that after i left the wts, how i wrote long (and painful) letters to my nonjw children among others.
i had tried to explain why i had shunned them and how very sorry i was, and for all the mistakes i had made throughout their childhoods as a jw mother.
I am glad for you Sunspot. If only we can see more of these happy changes in actions.
For me, they better get with it. Several of my siblings have died without a word to me.
My children must be more inteligent, since all but one no longer believe the jw crap and we speak freely to each other.
Outoftheorg
well, last night i was completely determined to tell my wife just three things i had learned.
i was just going to focus on lies - not scripture, or stupid stuff ... just lies.. 607/1914trinity (trinity brochure lies)cross (reasoning book lies and archeaology).
if she starts to question other stuff, or if she starts in on a debate about the trinity, i was going to shut her down and let her know i am willing to talk to her about that - but not right now.
there can be little doubt that the wts 'shunning' policy is a dangerous weapon.
each year tens of thousands of people are disfellowshipped, and experience the reality of being shunned.
many of them still believing the wts doctrine that if they die in this condition they will shortly be executed by god at har-meggedon and die an eternal and disgraceful death some leaving the faith altogether.
Yeah pretty much what Sapien said.
After the 1970's I was just exhausted by life in the jw world and how I was treated. The more the elders showed their contempt for me the angrier I became. There was never any attempt by the elders to offer help of any kind. Then they began to shun me and my family as we were marked.
Only made me angrier. Then my now ex wife became suicidal and lots of hidden hystory of sexual abuse in her family came to light.
There were of course other issues but the continued lack of even any attempt to help the family and the elders fixation on punishment only exacerbated everything until a divorce and my df'n were a fact and the elders felt satisfied.
At my df'n one of the elders held the "flock the sheep" magazine and while waving it, (screamed )something about "if you want to know if we have a right to do this, this book is where we get the right"
The one thing that stands out in my memories, is the animal like anger and hatred displayed by these so called representatives of God.
Did they heal any body, save a marriage, save a soul?
NO they only participated in the destruction of my family and my relations to them and my extended family.
Oddly enough, all of my family and my ex who remain in the jw world are having mental ,emotional , physical, and financial problems and those of us who are out are doing well.
My intense anger has become less as time goes by and I no longer have thoughts of injuring individual jw's. But my hatred for the wbts is as strong as ever.
Outoftheorg
we just had the biggest thunderstorm pass over us in many years, and the "epicenter", if you can all it that, was right over my house!!!!!!!!.
any minute, i was expecting to get hit in the a$$ with a bolt of lightning, and lose whatever little hair i have left on my head, or anywhere else, for that matter.
so, i think that the safest place to be, is on the toilet.. that way, when a bolt of lightning hits right outside your bathroom window, you will be in the right place when you shit yourself !!
Stilla is correct.
If your car or pickup has a metal roof it is the safer place. The tires have nothing to do with it since they have carbon and metal in them and will conduct to ground that which the metal cage delivers to them.
It is the metal cage effect that carries the voltage around you and down to the ground. An all metal building is even safer.
A house with a metal roof AND ground wires from the corners to the earth, is also a good shelter.
In the standard house, stay inside and avoid being close to any electrical outlet, light, phone lines etc.
Avoid trees and telephone poles if in the open, find a ditch or lower place and lay down flat.
Outoftheorg
women, you seem to always be able to admit that you can spot an attractive woman and be ok with it.
no need of having any fear of homosexual tendencies, not that there's anything wrong with it...but guys, will you ever admit that you can look at another man and know that he's attractive and good looking, with no fear within your inner being that you may be gay?.
i was in converse with my wife and mentioned to her how attracted men are to other women.
When all the shit hit the fan, the divorce the df'ing, the loss of business and bankrupt, I found it necessary to see a psychiatrist and get some medication.
I walk into his office and there is this slim tall guy about 30 yrs. old.
He had hair down to his shoulders and more. Was quiet and easy going.
For the first time in my life, I understood how one man might really love another man.
I had no sexual desire in his presence but his beauty was overwhelming.
Every time I had an early appointment I noticed his hair was not yet dry, I think he washed it every day.
I wonder to this day, who his partner was. Male or female.
Outoftheorg
I think that statement is reserved for Jesus Minimus.
You will have to come up with some thing else.
Outoftheorg
does anyone remember the incident that happened back in the summer of 1974 at what was called the "squibb" building at bethel where a pipe bomb detonated at one of the doors just under the bridge that spanned the complex across columbia heights?
i was at bethel at the time and i even have a picture of two nypd cops standing in front of the scene the day after (if i can only find the picture).
i was thinking of posting it on this forum but i don't know how.
My ex son in law was in Bethel around that time and he mentioned a bomb blast at one of the buildings.
He told me that when the police arrived he told them it smelled like dynamite. Since he knew what dynamite smelled like, the police started questioning him.
He got off the hook when he told them that he had worked with his father in Idaho when they blew the trunks and roots of trees out of the ground, they used dynamite.
He and his family were such a bunch of wierdos, I never knew what to believe.
Outoftheorg of the "could it have been him"?? guessing group.
Minimus dies then sees God.
Minimus==God what do you???
God== Shut up minimus I'll get to you later!!!!!
Outoftheorg
holy crap it's hotter than hell out there!!
i know, i know, i had bitched back in early may cause it was snowing outside, but this is crazy!
right now, it's 30 celcius, or 86 fairenheit outside.
Here in s/w Idaho it has been in the triple digits every after noon 100 to 103 fh and very hi humidity due to the 4 rivers in the area.
Come on down south Merry Mag. I'll let you in our air conditioned house.
Then you and me and my wife will enjoy our icy MARGARITAS!
Outoftheorg
the gb have a manifest agenda that they present to the world regarding their intentions and policies.
however they also a have a hidden agenda which spells their real intentions and policies.
to mention an example they say that the jw kids should not attend university because it is pointless in view of the end soon, the risks of fleshly temptations and loss of eternal life, the god blessed pioneering work is a better way to spend their time etc.
No matter what the gb's reasoning is or their beliefs are or their actions are.
In the end it all ends up being just about what Farkel said.
Save the society at all costs. In their mind "they are the society, gods spokesmen".
Accepting even the smallest of thought, {that the society may disintegrate} can not be tolerated by these old mostly disturbed old men.
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