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  Setting the Record Straight

  by Scully in

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  re: to sin by silence.

  upon further investigation, it appears that i was in error and misidentified the poster beacon of truth as being lawrence hughes/shunned father.

  the misidentification was based on a telephone conversation that i had with mr hughes on or about august 20, 2005, in which he expressed frustration and the same negative sentiments toward the members of jwd and the lack of support he was perceiving from them for his protest rallies.

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  I think you have handled this situation and your self very well.

  Thanks for the original information and the follow up.

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  My Escape

  by Joel Wideman in

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  my mother was roman catholic and, it turns out, mentally ill. she was rushed into marriage when my father got her pregnant with me.

  he was also catholic, a sailor, and an alcoholic.. .

  when my father was going to be sent to vietnam, my mother threatened to kill me and herself.

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  Beep

  So thousands of people are wrong and you and only you are right.

  Just keep on with your nonsense, making a fool of your self.

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  Has the devil given up on you?

  by jt stumbler in

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  i remember being told that the reason witnesses experience difficulties in life is because the devil is concentrating his efforts on "gods people".

  and that he doesn't care about the "people of the world" because he already has turned them away from "the truth".

  from what i've noticed from this forum, their are plenty of people who are experiencing some bad situations.

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  Well ya know, its like this.

  I been awatchin for that debil for a long time now. I think I got a glimps o him in the convention held in the Calif. "cows palace" but it turned into just the leftovers from a few cows.

  Then I left the wbts to do their bit in the cow palace and took the road to destruction.

  I kept a lookin ova my shoulders for that debil and never did see him.

  It got to the point that I'as just used to his not bein around that I began to see what I thought

  Must be an angel, but this only happened at the local tavern. Now I knows that angels don't hang out in taverns drinkin booze.

  Then one day after a large amount a Mexican food and lots of salsa I went to bed and had these awful dreams. There I learned that if I drinks to much or eats too much salsa all sorts of debils and angels start to fightin and the rukus stinks to hi heavin.

  Ain't seen a debil or an angel since.

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  My daughter and her grandparents

  by kwintestal in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  since i talked to my father after my disfellowshipping and he hung up on me, i haven't talked to my mom or dad.

  last month when we were in ontario i talked to my uncle and aunts about how my parents are treating us (shunning) and we got a lot of support from them, and they can't understand why my mom and dad would treat us like that.

  anyway, my 7 year old daughter overheard the conversations, even though i was trying to keep the situation away from her as i don't think a child really needs to know all the details of the situation.. on the drive home out of the blue my daughter says she wants to call my parents, so we ask why?

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  Yeah defd, follow the wbts instructions.

  Smother the kids with love and treat the childrens parents like they are the most evil people in town.

  That is just what a family needs. A well thought out line of conduct that should split the family apart.

  At the very least cause a heavy load of emotional confusion in the children.

  Anyone that would follow that line of thought as grand parents ought to be totally out of the families experiences and deserve to experience the same treatment that they give to their own children.

  Defd you seem to be a kind person, but you need to give this problem some thoughts OUTSIDE of what the wbts tells you to believe and to put into practice.

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  My Escape

  by Joel Wideman in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my mother was roman catholic and, it turns out, mentally ill. she was rushed into marriage when my father got her pregnant with me.

  he was also catholic, a sailor, and an alcoholic.. .

  when my father was going to be sent to vietnam, my mother threatened to kill me and herself.

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  No one has been able to produce these tapes???

  Well if I was a co or do and had these tapes, when 1975 came and went I would destroy these tapes and claim to high heaven "they never existed". Just as you do.

  Do you realize how childish and ridiculous you seem to those of us who actually experienced these things?.

  You obviously have an agenda and are willing to lie about your own experiences.

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  Letters and notes left on kh door?

  by gladdy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  wondering what you all put in your letters when you leave the jw.

  so they wont bother you anymore or put the pressure on to return or do their guilt thing which they do sooooooo well.

  i read where one ex put a note on the door.

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  I once came upon a subscription card "no stamp required to mail" for play boy magazine.

  You could check one of two boxes- payment now or bill me later. I checked bill me later.

  I put an Elder's name, one of the elders I didn't like and the address of his kingdom hall.

  Put it in the mail box.

  Never did hear the outcome of that.

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  JW Literature-why not public?

  by AllAlongTheWatchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this might be old hat to those of you with more experience in the wts/witness life, but it struck me as very odd, perhaps even a bit sinister.

  i started coming here so i could find out just what my wife was getting herself into.

  on my first day here, i learned about the blood doctrine, and that was enough to convince me.

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  Allalong your gut feelings are not lying to you.

  The jw's are a cult and a dangerous one at that. The blood issue you mentioned is a requirement that people be willing to sacrifice their lives in order to remain in good standing with the jw cult.

  What more do you need to understand this?

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  My Escape

  by Joel Wideman in

  1. jw
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  my mother was roman catholic and, it turns out, mentally ill. she was rushed into marriage when my father got her pregnant with me.

  he was also catholic, a sailor, and an alcoholic.. .

  when my father was going to be sent to vietnam, my mother threatened to kill me and herself.

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  Beep I was an elder at that time around 1974 to 1978.

  While I can not recall where the wbts PRINTED in clear words that "armageddon is due in 1975" I can clearly recall, that they did everything but that to STRONGLY SUGGEST that 1975 was the year.

  Also every time a co came to town there were tapes played of other individuals high up in the wbts that DID CLEARLY INDICATE THAT 1975 WAS THE YEAR OF ARMAGEDDON IN THEIR TALKS AT OTHER KINGDOM HALLS.

  It became so obvious that the wbts WANTED US TO BELIEVE THE YEAR 1975 WOULD BRING ARMAGEDDON that there were no doubts in anyones minds.

  Why do you refuse to believe those of us who were there at that time??

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  Did The Circuit Overseer Ever Do Anything For You On His Visit?

  by minimus in

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  they make a huge deal over how the co is coming and we have to show appreciation for his visit.

  did the co ever do anything special for you during his visit?

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  In my experience, Co's run the gamut from wierdos, control freaks to a few genuine people.

  Early in my short time as an elder, the publishers would come to me for help and ignore some of the older elders.

  To this day, once in a while one of my children will make a comment like, brother or siste so and so mentioned "they sure miss me, I was one of the good elders"..

  This of course caused envy and dislike from some of the elders.

  My first encounter was with a co who after the day was fading to night, spent his time in bed with his wife watching the TV from around 6 pm to 11 or so.( Every night). Now this was in other peoples homes. Where one would expect some visiting and getting to know their keepers and conversations of uplifting subjects to be tossed about.

  This guy knows nothing about me and at a meeting he says my car is in the way. So I get up to move it and he demands my keys and (HE will move it.)

  Next thing is he holds my keys up, I had quite a few keys. Then he says before the whole meeting (here is a man with too many toys).

  It was obvious that he wanted to show some level of control over me. Today I would tell him to fuck off. But being the good little jw I said nothing.

  The next co I encountered was staying in my home during his visit. My now ex wife was having some problelms with depression. So her sister talked her into putting some lighter strips in her dark hair.

  It seemed to cheer her her up and I thought it looked very good and told her so. She had to be submissive I guess and asked this jack ass how he saw it. He tells my wife in front of me "I THINK IT MAKES YOU LOOK CHEAP". This time I stood my ground and told her in front of him, that I liked it.

  There was nothing I could say to convince my wife to keep her hair as it was. She died it dark again.

  The third encounter was a very nice happy man who treated everyone as an equal. At that time the co's could tow a trailer to live in. He had a nice car and a new trailer. This stired up the envious self righteous anger in some elders. He and his wife were the only co's that seemed normal and not judging everyone and who enjoyed some of what life has to offer.

  The co asked if any of us could install a CB TRANSCIEVER in his car. Another jw a friend of mine, and I liked to use ham radios and I had the tools to install and adjust the radio to its surroundings.

  So we installed the cb radio and it was like we put a cross on his car and we were helping this evil co in an endeavor started by satan.

  For me it was all these things that seemed small and unimportant at the time that grew into a larger and larger dissatisfaction with the jw's.

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  Are you still "Mad" or "Angry" at the Watchtower Orgaization?

  by JH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  did your "anger or hate" for the jw organization go up or down since you left the org?

  when you read all the stories on this forum about other people's experience, does your anger resurface?.

  could you go as far as saying that what they did to you or your family is unforgivable, keeping you constantly mad at them.

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  I will always have some anger towards the wbts.

  At this moment I am more disgusted and LOATHE them.

  It still is hard for me to understand, how such a group as Rutherford/Franz/ and the wbts leaders can be so totally uncaring and unloving and spew such such demanding garbage all the while proclaiming how loving and God directed they are.

  There has got to be some insanity there that draws like minded fools to seek membership in the GB or even any position in the upper echelon at bethel etc.

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