Posts by UnshackleTheChains

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Great News in the EX Jehovahs Witness World!!!

by Christian Gutierrez in

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we are so overjoyed with what is happening in the exjw community!

it is places like this forum where many can have a place to interact anonymously and be felt like they are understood.

you guys are awesome!

UnshackleTheChains

Hi Christian and to your good lady.

Great point made about people waking up. The amount of bad press the watchtower publishing corporation is receiving right now is beyond belief. You would have to be the most dimwitted JW to not see the controversies within the organisation. It's all over the net. This forum and others; the plethora of you tube videos such as yours; the hearings; the court cases, the newspapers; the TV.

What's more, when elders make complete arses of themselves when trying to micro manage the congregation, helps to wake people up. Eg my wife, friend and several others within our congregation caught out a prominent elder blatantly lying to them. In fact it was embarrassing. The sad part is that that particular elder doesn't even realise he was caught out because his head is so far up his own arse. Yet, those who realised he was 'blatantly' lying no doubt bring his credibility into question.

Yes, it truly is good news that people are waking up to the lies and deceit of this organisation that mixes truth and falsehood for the sake of its own interests!!!

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Do you feel that you are really YOU?

by UnshackleTheChains in

i am interested in finding out how you view yourself.

are really you when it comes to every day interactions....ie when at work, with family or friends, or if attending meetings?.

if still attending, do you feel you are not the real you at meetings?

UnshackleTheChains

I am interested in finding out how you view yourself. Are really YOU when it comes to every day interactions....ie when at work, with family or friends, or if attending meetings?

If still attending, do you feel you are not the real you at meetings? Is it all a show? Do you feel you are putting on an act as a witness.? In regards to faders and ex witnesses, do you feel you are still not really you when in company with relatives or friends who are witnesses? Do you feel you are holding back all the time?

In my case, it's all an act. I force myself to go for family reasons. I am not myself when at the meetings. I am putting on a show. If I were to display my true thoughts and feelings, I would be kicked out of the KH within a flash. The only times I can be the real ME 'anonymously' is here on this forum. I can also be the real me with one work colleague whome I share my experiences with; a good genuine friend who has faded many years ago; a little bit with my wife ( though tread carefully); and a little bit with my over zealous 'loyal to the organisation' mother.

I am certainly not me generally which is frustrating. Hence the reason I like to vent here.

So ......do you feel that you are the real 'genuine' YOU whether you be a current jw, a fader, or an ex jw?

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The Governing Body wishes you...

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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happy ash wednesday!.

UnshackleTheChains

Happy @ Bethel day

https://youtu.be/Je6_855Ucac

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Hanging out with JWs is exhausting!

by StephaneLaliberte in

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not long ago, there was a funeral for a sister i haven’t know very much, so i did not attend.

however, some old “friends” i know drove down to town to assist and i ended up spending some time with them.

quite honestly, i was happy to see them again.

UnshackleTheChains

I attended a family event once where I was expecting mostly relatives and friends to be in attendance. I did expect a handful of Witnesses to be there, but discovered almost a third in attendance were witnesses.

I felt I could let my hair down with everyone but the witnesses and avoided interaction with them as much as I could that night as had a skin full 🍻

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Bethelites are Employees

by berrygerry in

bethel seems to have legal fires happening everywhere.

https://www.newera.com.na/2017/04/28/church-loses-labour-case/.

UnshackleTheChains

However, the church argued that there is no employment relationship as the members have voluntarily devoted their lives to serving God, and carrying out their duties is merely a lifestyle and not a job, even though they failed to explain why they registered themselves as an employer.
“The congregation cannot pick and choose which laws should apply to them and which may not … it is evident that an employment relationship exists between the two parties,” explained Unengu, adding that the church cannot get a free card just because it is doing the work of God.

It's all about the 💰

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What was it like being a JW in the 1960's and 1970's

by UnshackleTheChains in

this is obviously a question for the older generation.

i'm really curious what it was like to be a witness in the 60's and 70's?.

was the society as strict as it is today?.

UnshackleTheChains

I remember having get togethers and conversing with brothers on doctrines.

Wow, thanks for all the experiences and feedback guys.

Re the above. Conversation around doctrine is seriously lacking today at get togethers. You never hear brothers open up about 'their' take on doctrine. I wonder why 🤔

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What was it like being a JW in the 1960's and 1970's

by UnshackleTheChains in

this is obviously a question for the older generation.

i'm really curious what it was like to be a witness in the 60's and 70's?.

was the society as strict as it is today?.

UnshackleTheChains

This is obviously a question for the older generation. I'm really curious what it was like to be a witness in the 60's and 70's?

Was the society as strict as it is today?

Did you feel proud to be a JW back then?

Were the brothers more loving in those days?

Just wanted to hear some experiences to compare with the way things are today

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IRS raids televangelist Benny Hinn's office in Grapevine

by Hecce in

local.

irs raids televangelist benny hinn's office in grapevine.

lauren zakalik, wfaa2 hours agofacebook.

UnshackleTheChains

https://youtu.be/JkhX5W7JoWI

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The Governing Body WILL be sued in America collectively and individually in the near future!

by notsurewheretogo in

so lloyd evans aka cedars says on his facebook page when he attended a reveal jw child abuse event.. .

interesting stuff but no details!.

UnshackleTheChains

Religious abstention policy would come in effect with cases such as shunning and blood issue. A Church cannot be held responsible for what has said if it is in the promotion of their truly held religious beliefs

We are living in uncertain times Mr Oliver. Judging by that conference hosted by reveal news, I would suggest the GB members wear brown suits from now on. The new facilities in Warwick look good, but it's no ivory tower.

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Could a petition to make shunning illegal work?

by aboveusonlysky in

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we're currently watching leah remini's series about scientology and the main thing she seems to focus on is the shunning policies of the scientology organization which let's face it are very similar to jw procedure.. i was wondering with all that's in the media recently about bullying could a petition be put together to get the goverment to consider making religiously mandated shunning illegal?

has such a thing been tried before?.

https://petition.parliament.uk/help says the following - .

UnshackleTheChains

Also as a reminder most constitutions only bar the state from encroaching into a person's constitutionally protected rights, there is very little that stops a private individual or institution from doing that unless otherwise prescribed by law. That is why the KKK and other hate groups still operate in free countries like the USA. You can spout out hate speech all you want you can't induce a person to assault or kill someone but you can preach hate. Even in France one of the major candidates for President is accused as being a hate monger.

Yep that may be true Richard Oliver.. Yet, though they have the freedom of speech, how do most people view the KKK? How do most people view scientologists? What comes to the average person's mind when they think of Jehovah's Witnesses?

The biggest detriment any organisation can have on individuals is when 'their' name causes alarm bells to ring in a person's minds.

A name means a lot to people. Any organisations name that conjures up thoughts or feelings such as 'extremist', 'high control', 'cult' is far far more damaging than any legal processes.

Such thoughts create barrier's in people's minds and therefore can act as a barrier in preventing individuals getting involved in such organisations.

The Watchtower Society do a fantastic job of portraying themselves as a very extreme high control religious group.

So I take my hat of to the GB who portray the organisation in this manner. The result....People are less likely and 'wary' of getting involved.

Keep up the good work Mark, Geoff, Garret, Stevie, Sam, Tight pants Tony iii; and the overlapping generation's presenter guy (re jw broadcasting) 😋.

Btw.....Thanks to aboveusonlysky for asking this really important question.

To be honest.....Any pressure put on the WTB&TS to bring about change/reform has my blessing.