Greetings eyeusedtobeadub, I enjoyed your comments and welcome you to the forum. I didn't see where you had posted an introduction, but with your experience, we would love to hear your story.
JakeM2012
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Do you think "Blondie" is addicted to reading Watchtowers and Awakes?
by booker-t ini remember when i was a "devout" jws i could not wait to get the new watchtowers and awakes from the wednesday nite theocratic ministry school.
i would actually salivate thinking of the new information jehovah had in the magazines for us.
i was "franatical" and i would go home still in my three piece suit and devour the magazines that very nite.
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Suing the WTB&TS for their failure of duty of care towards Jehovahs Witnesses/volunteers when furthering their cause
by smiddy inas an illustration/example : the two mature age women who were mauled by a dog recently who underwent a horrific experience when they were engaged in feild service for the wtb&ts and needed medical treatment and hospital care , if they had so chosen to do so ,couldnt they have sued the organization for their failure of duty of care ?
how many more such cases happens that we dont hear about ?
injuries at conventions , in field service ,on the way ,driving to field service or assemblys , accidents etc.
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JakeM2012
Bob_NC, good points. That has always irritated me, the congregation paying "insurance premiums" but they can't ever make a claim. I wonder how many "insurance" companies would be in business today? Not from the lack of payouts on claims, but because the lack of business? WTBTS makes money off of the "insurance" they sell to the congregations, and state to the congregations that it is lower in price and more comprehensive than a worldly company would offer. However, there are laws that regulate the world's insurance companies that WT never has to abide by. Another point of them avoiding regulations because of their Non-Profit status.
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Is it common to,,,
by label licker inhave a local needs on apostasy, have everyone shun you, have no shepherding calls since you left for over a year, and now a jc tomorrow evening????????.
spoke to branch committee as well as co and they said to go and if we were treated unfairly then to call the co. don't get it.
the co would have known about the local needs talk on apostasy and says if we were treated unfairly to call him.
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Newly E says, "Our lawyer said that we are entitled to legal representation if this is a judicial committee and if not, they are violating our civil rights."
AMEN, always have someone go with you when you see a doctor because you might miss something said or forget to say, and always have someone else present when talking to any elder especially a "judicial committee". I have seen some elders start badgering the interigated person. How embarassing.
The back stabbing of elder-to-elder got so bad I would never talk with a elder alone, that way if something is commented on at least you have someone else's memory to help out.
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Do you think "Blondie" is addicted to reading Watchtowers and Awakes?
by booker-t ini remember when i was a "devout" jws i could not wait to get the new watchtowers and awakes from the wednesday nite theocratic ministry school.
i would actually salivate thinking of the new information jehovah had in the magazines for us.
i was "franatical" and i would go home still in my three piece suit and devour the magazines that very nite.
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Booker, "I don't mean to be judging you" but,... CAN IT. Blondies comments has helped many recognize and identify the indoctrinational thinking process used by WTBTS when reading the magazines. I have enjoyed her posts.
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Post 7: Hopefully the last letter I recieve
by sosoconfused ini think my mother has lost it.
i really do and i am in fear that she is literally losing touch with reality to some degree.. even my father is telling me that her responses to me are growing weirded:.
the scriptures tell us that we can be wrathful.......but don't sin.
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Sosoconfused, I am sorry for the stress with your mother. You seem to be a nice guy. I don't have any helpful advise, as I have endured a strained relationship with my mother, who, up until my father died, mom and I had no problems ever. So, I write to let you know that there are others in similar circumstances.
My situation is probably not unique, but I have a fleshly brother that plays very dirty; meaning launching and dropping a Hiroshima/Nagasaki bomb like character assasination composed of treacherous lies of me and my family shortly after my dad died. (He's a Bethel graduate of 12 years, what else would you expect?). My mother chose to believe his lies, and now there is a division in the family greater than any before. At first, it really emotionally hurt, and as it has been going on for 12 years now, I have never seen a chance for even a truce so I "turned the other cheek".
It seems that nothing I could do has helped; any effort on my part was quickly spun to be evil by my brother who has control of my mother. So I have chosen to recognize that there are somethings that I cannot change. I chose this path so that I would not let their hatefulness and lies affect the peace in my immediate family.
However, although there are circumstances I might not be able to change, but that does not leave me without control. One scriptural idea from Proverbs that I thought was wise, is a simple one, "Where there is no wood the fire goes out, and where there is no slanderer contention grows still." My silence has been equal to removing the wood that was being used against me and my family and hopefully, the slander would stop, or at least become a non-issue to me. My wife and family have enjoyed virtually uninterrupted peace since, although this was a difficult decision for me, I'm happy with it.
Jehovah's Witnesses have a religion that is fundamentally at war with the basic family structure, and unfortuneately we are the collateral damage.
Again, I think I may know how this weighs on you, and I feel for you.
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Andy Murray - Woop woop!!!
by not bitter inmy voice is sore from shouting this afternoon.
i'm so so happy.
did all you brits watch?
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JakeM2012
I thought Anne Murray was a female singer in America? Awesome!!!
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First post venting
by Freethinking76 inhello ,i am a jw,been in the "truth " for about 6 years.i have to be very careful because i know the witnesses monitors sites and report to the elders ,i know cause that is what my blood sister does,she spends hours trying to find apostates in the closet.i know stuped.. so this is my situation.i have known about jw almost all my life and heard that only them have the truth,lots of my family are in it.i was the one taking too long to baptize ,i knew it was expected from me.and i always had a need to make ppl like me .so i took the dip.i started to notice that there are lots of jws that belong to little groups.i wanted friendship so bad and at the time had a need o tell ppl about my horrible childhood traumas i guess i was not over it yet,and needed some to lisent since i had drove my spouse nuts already .what happend this ppl pretend to want to be close to me so they can know all my business and then tell everyone at the hall.then you realize uhhh,they never confided their personal stuff to me.is like a game " you can tell me your stuff,but do not expect me to keep it to myself and do not think i will tell you my dirty laundry.a lot of mind games.. so i was alone ,invisible ,i still can't believe i put up with so much !
i can't wright not even half of what i when through.i feel paranoic now.so i came across a youtube video by jwstruggle and blow my mind ,now i can't stop researching,my spouse is not a jw,and is very shock too.so i decided that i want to fade,i guess it won't be so hard since the sis and brothers did not had a close relationship with me.i have kids and i suffer from pts ,anxiety attacks,panick attacks and severe depression.i moved to the next town of my hall,so i have change hall too.i have not been to my new hall,and wanted to know,will the elders in my old hall contact the elders in my new hall just to see if i am attending?..
my spouse told me " i will tell them i am not letting you go" "and "i found out that your liars!
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JakeM2012
Free thinking,!!!!! your so excited!!!! I had a hard time reading your post with no paragraph spacing or capitals, but I made it through and I'm glad you had a place to vent:)!!!!!!!!!! Who knows you might be typing from a smartphone.
WELCOME, to the forum, and I sincerely appreciate your experience. Take a Xanex, or Klonopine and try to chill, a margarita might not hurt either....
It all gets better; this is not the end of the world; and if you continue to read you will see that there are many experiences like yours. Welcome again, and we know that is not your real sister that is looking for apostates,,,,,,you wouldn't have told us that, Oh LOL's.
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Bible printing, a loss of money for the WTS
by oppostate inso i brought this up in another thread... but i think it needs its own discussion.. having had one of the new grey leatherette and silver edged bibles with the new appendixes in my hand.
i immediately thought of all the custom covered nwt bibles you see some publishers sporting at meetings.
also the fact that the co's and wives who'd been given one had to turn it back in seemed very off-putting.. .
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I have a half of a box of black and red "deluxe" NWT Bibles. I'd have to dig them out, but I think they are there.
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I was wondering why the WT society does not want us to discuss business before and after the meetings at the Kingdom Hall?
by Iamallcool ini know their answer.
i think it is all bs.
lets discuss!.
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JakeM2012
Sammy, you start so calm and reasonable, and then you just make me laugh my a off. Good one about, no business talk beforehand, just damaging cliquesh gossip.
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Possible solution to the "cut and paste" vs copyright law problem
by JeffT inthis thought was sparked by a thread about possible copyright violations.
people here want to provide backup for an argument they are making, or demand proof of some sort from people they debating.
the result seems to be endless wars of cutting and pasting sometimes huge chunks of materials from some place else.
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just say it, that is good! Interestingly, it seems that many people are not aware of the academic format used for citations. APA, MLA, and others are what most Universities go by today for their students to cite information. An example of the format is http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/560/01/ (I don't expect you to click this)
..... but part of their format is to tell what page you got something off of if it is a quote. I think that in open discussions like this if a corporation is ticked off because of copy and pasting for less than 50 words, it is because either they don't want their researched intelligence stolen, or (in the case of WT) they have something to hide. That is where I believe that WT has screwed the pooch in chasing anyone that quotes them, obviously, they want to control the damage, by not letting people read the information quoted, in other words, they have something to hide.
Remembering to provide citations is a good practice that we should be aware of. Sometimes, I just want to read more of the cited information and the citation assists me in doing that.
WT has never cited anything so you really have to dig to get the context information. Thanks to the internet search engines, they are now exposed.
But why is it that WT is so beligerent on policing someone quoting them, when they provide no citation for their cut up, taken out of context, article word skewing and mining? Oh, they are exposed again. All I have to say, when WTBTS starts showing citations for their "research" then they have a right to whine about the copywrite laws. Otherwise, shut it!