Posts by JakeM2012

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Random Musing of an ex-JW between a rock and a hard place.

by StarTrekAngel in

many of you may recall pass postings of mine where i mentioned my plans of moving away from my current neighborhood.

mainly because my office got moved and now my commute is about one hour each way.

my employer is pretty flexible so showing up on time, for now, is not an issue.

JakeM2012

Hey Star Trek, I have empathy for your situation, it appears to you are in rock and hard place, and, it is difficult to leave a cult completely behind. I sympathize with you. We are all damaged to some degree.

Moving on to business:

Personally, If I didn't have the cash, I wouldn't try to buy or build a house unless I had a banks approval first with an agreed upon period of time to close. Working with a builders' financier's in an expanding economy is not the side of the table where you want to negotiate from. Get your financing lined up, i.e. make loan applications to lenders, then go to a neighborhood that you like and negotiate a price for a home.

If the new prices are outrageous in a hot area and you can't afford it, then perhaps look into a used home that you can revamp. However, if you walk in to a builder, coolly look at their models, say, "I don't know, I'm not fond of some of your selections", and you have a letter in your coat pocket that says's you have a loan from a such and such bank for six months to 95 percent of completion, you can then negotiate a good price for the house. I wouldn't play by their rules. (This is a whole other topic for a thread)

What you are doing is comparable to going to an auto dealership and letting them ask you what payment you can afford as opposed to what car you want. There is a world of difference.

Read the Donald Trump's "The Art of the Deal" (used, 50 Cents). There is nothing superbly outstanding or moving the earth in it, it just gives an insight that some may not have naturally.

Best wishes. And.....yes, I would tell your MIL your moving. Let her make her choice.

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Tacoma Dome regional conventions

by Crazyguy in

this is the spot where most of washington state and even parts of oregon have had thier regional conventions.

there would be as many as 4 conventions during the summer.

this year none.

JakeM2012

Tells us Introvert, was it that parking was included in their contract but charged for it also?

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Leah Remini to tackle JWs in new special

by betterdaze in

the star has a previous first-look production deal with the network to produce unscripted series following the success of her emmy-winning show “leah remini: scientology and the aftermath.” according to the hollywood reporter, remini will produce a special for the network during the break following season 3 of the acclaimed docuseries.. it notes that jehovah’s witnesses, while based on biblical teachings, have come under fire over the years for similar practices to the church remini left years ago.

for example, practices of ousting or shunning members who have dissenting views, a blanket refusal to participate in politics and government as well as not celebrating christmas or birthdays are all things that the special will reportedly cover.

additionally, the religion has predicted the literal end of the world several times, obviously to no avail.. .

JakeM2012

If JW's had seen Leah Remini's series on Scientology and enjoyed it, it will be interesting to see their reaction to the same consideration of Jw's.

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Sometimes it's the little things....

by dubstepped in

jw
friends

i'm listening to a podcast where a former elder describes how another elder conducted the watchtower study about hyperbole.

the elder called it hyper-bowl.

soon the whole congregation called it hyper-bowl.

JakeM2012

Laurel and Hardy

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Receiving so much hate recently....

by stuckinarut2 in

jw
friends

well, as you all know, my wife (unstuck) and i are not df or da.. we just stopped attending several years back after my "apostate" online activity was found by a nosey employee of ours while she was working in our office (long story if anyone wants to know - it would have to be another thread).

we never met with any elders - no congregation judicial activity occurred (as we would never consent to do so anyway).

so our policy has been to be the same kind, loving, normal people we have always been.

JakeM2012

Longhairgirl, casting your pearls before swing is an excellent application!

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Receiving so much hate recently....

by stuckinarut2 in

jw
friends

well, as you all know, my wife (unstuck) and i are not df or da.. we just stopped attending several years back after my "apostate" online activity was found by a nosey employee of ours while she was working in our office (long story if anyone wants to know - it would have to be another thread).

we never met with any elders - no congregation judicial activity occurred (as we would never consent to do so anyway).

so our policy has been to be the same kind, loving, normal people we have always been.

JakeM2012

Yes, I can identify with your feelings. Recently, last winter, I wanted to send a gift of high quality steaks to my Mom who has my brother living with her as he is unemployed. Yes, he hasn't been weened. I had a great year and appreciating God's grace, I wanted to share, nothing more and nothing less.

I was called by the company and they said they refused the order. On one side I regretted making the order, because they are great at making up lies and no telling what story they came up with. Then, on the other side of me, I thought, good, that shows me their heart condition. My family, as many JW families are full of hatred, anger, and intolerance.

I suggest concentrating on the windshield (the future and future friends) and just not worry about trying to sustain any relationship with your former friends associated with Jw's. Of course, be peaceable with all men as you have done. They are interpreting your kindness as antagonistic.

You can continue to do CPR on a dead person, but eventually you have to call it for what it is. They do not want a relationship with you or your wife, you are as dead to them. Take a new photo and continue "onward through the fog".

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What Should I Say?

by cookiemaster in

i need a bit of advice.

i've been pimo for a long time and fading more and more.

i occasionally attend for family but never give any answers or actively participate in any way.

JakeM2012

Tell you have irritable bowel syndrome and find the brown spots on your pants embarrassing.

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Therapists business is booming thanks to jw's

by nowwhat? in

my wife has been a just " goes through the motions" jw all her life.

and once in while she will see a therapist to vent.

well she finally mentioned one her reasons for stress was being a witness and the therapist said she understands because she has had many clients are witnesses!

JakeM2012

Lmbo, "the one that all the elders go to!"

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Hospitality - How not to.....March 2018 study article.

by punkofnice in

what do you make of this part of the march 2018 watchtower study edition?.

2 among other things, peter urged his brothers: “be hospitable to one another.” (1 pet.

4:9) the word “hospitality” in greek literally means “fondness for, or kindness to, strangers.” note, however, that peter urged his christian brothers and sisters to be hospitable “to one another,” to those whom they already knew and associated with.

JakeM2012

It's obvious they are closing the distance in between the wagons. Maybe that's why you are not greeted even when visiting the Kingdom Hall.

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Consequences for having a non religious wedding ceraminy?

by Addison0998 in

hey i was wondering if maybe someone who is an ex elder or who knows a lot about these things could help me.

my dad is an elder but i need to be cautious with questions i ask.

now that i’ve been woken up from my brainwashed love of this corrupt corporation and from my belief in the bible, and my fiancé is starting to wake up as well, i really don’t want to have the sexist, overused, impersonal talk outline used for my wedding ceremony by some elder who is trying to show off his talk giving skills.

JakeM2012

Personally, I think you've got it. I wouldn't want a cold dead wedding by the organization book and some Watchtowers written in the 1980's.

I believe with the fait accompli method that only questions can be asked and you can just give simple "none of your business" answers.

Just make sure you have credible evidence to indicate that it was not because of premarital relations or that she is currently pregnant, (unless you are Joseph fathering the Messiah) which means you have to come up with a plan.

Questions will be asked of you even if you have it at the Kingdom Hall, even the day of the ceremony the speaker can ask you if you have "done the nasty" and good lord don't touch her breast.;)

Personally, I kinda like the edginess of running off and eloping. You know witnesses, they will talk no matter what until something else is news worthy.

Basically, you can say, "we didn't want the emotional pressure, the expense, and so forth, so that we could concentrate on spiritual goals, "we are trying to keep our life simple so we can pioneer together", (I've learned what the real meaning of the term, "Pioneering together" means)

You might add that local weddings have become competitive to out do the other and you didn't want to further the competitive spirit in the congregation.

In ancient times a man would just walk through the streets with his wife without a ceremony, everyone would know they were now married.

Make sure your paperwork is together to make it legal. IF, thats what you want to do. Also, There is nothing wrong with having a private ceremony having a person, not necessarily an elder, give your formalities, and inviting only your family.

If you are not currently the object of some "investigation" by the elders for suspicious behavior you will be all right.

Personally, I would give you a greater wedding present if I didn't have to go. I never liked the weddings. They have banished the liquor, dancing, and music at the reception; and drinking with a suit on in your car like you are a teenager is a drag.