depending upon where you are living and the job situation, you barely get by let alone save for retirement. That being said, it doesn't help that JW discouraged getting educated so as to have better job placement opportunities. It doesn't help when it is put in front of you that the world is ending within a certain time frame.
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No pension no preparation for retirement
by Mikejw ina lot of my ex fellow servants must be now in their seventies, what can you do?.
no children no money no home.
it is so sad.. so many decided not to have children as the end was right around the corner and that was decades ago.
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enoughisenough
What's with the dancing?
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What Do You Like About Biden's Build Back Better Agenda & the Democrat's Build Back Better Act?
by Disillusioned JW inwhat do you like about biden's build back better agenda & the democrat's build back better act?
is it liberal and progressive enough for you or do you wish it would go further?
https://www.vox.com/22711083/biden-reconciliation-build-back-better-polls-infrastructure has some comments about it.
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I think it is part of a global agenda for the "elite" to take over the world and make slaves of the average person. "you will have nothing and you will be happy"
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Elders won't tell you who have falsely accused you
by enoughisenough inhaving been a victim of this practice twice, i thought i would see if others had the same experience.
on one occassion, i was before the elders being told i was drunk on a certain day at a certain time.
( this was only brought up because when i was pushing for a meeting because of elder mr x adultery , i was threatened somethings would be brought out about me if i persued the meeting.
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Mr x had to leave because he gifted me with an std...he visited another congregation for memorial and an older sister who always favored him came up to him to tell him what went wrong in his marriage-it was brother so and so fault...No it wasn't he told her. She kept insisting. He is the one who told me all about the conversation he had with her. So I called her out on it and told her the truth about telling him to leave because of the std..."well,I didn't know that." No she didn't because I wasn't telling anyone local because the elders told me to keep my mouth shut... but she was spreading her lies and she wouldn't tell me to who all she spread the lies. I told to go back and tell them the truth because if she could spread the lies, she could spread the truth. I told Mr x I had told her the truth about the situation...He said," why did you do that? She will tell everyone!" I did tell a sister I knew who lived 1.5 hours away...she told her daughter in NY, who told her friend in WV,who was friends with presiding overseers wife, who told her husband , who came to my house with another elder telling me I had slandered my husband and I could no longer work with the RBC
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No pension no preparation for retirement
by Mikejw ina lot of my ex fellow servants must be now in their seventies, what can you do?.
no children no money no home.
it is so sad.. so many decided not to have children as the end was right around the corner and that was decades ago.
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LongHairGal,
your if you were in, you would be approached for $ reminded me of a "sister" I took pity on and tried to help. She was sick and we went to visit and all her and the daughter's clothes and other laundry were in bags-dirty. I took it all home and washed, dried, folded it. She had no money, so every Sunday after meeting I brought her home with me along with the dirty clothes so she could do laundry. I came to realize she had mental issues ( she was brilliant in many ways and the best beautician but couldn't keep it together- happy one minute and screaming about something the next.)and told her she should try to get Social Security. ( she did and got it faster than anyone I ever knew.) So she got the disabiltiy and I also learned her parents gave her money and a car, etc. So I told her now that she had income, I would like a little money to pay for the use of washer and dryer ( way less than a laundry mat would charge.) Along about that time, she had fallen in my house and sued my insurance and bought herself a new washer and dryer, but as this all ran together, she took me before the brothers because I was greedy and wouldn't continue to let her do laundry free. So there are those with their hand out ready to use you. I was willing to help someone, not take them raise!
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No pension no preparation for retirement
by Mikejw ina lot of my ex fellow servants must be now in their seventies, what can you do?.
no children no money no home.
it is so sad.. so many decided not to have children as the end was right around the corner and that was decades ago.
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enoughisenough
LongHairGal,
You needlessly took offense. No one is pestering you that I know of. The Bible says if you don't work, you don't eat. It doesn't encourage not working. But some fell on hard times and were to be looked after James 1:27 The form of worship that is clean and undefilied from the standpoint of our God and Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in their tribulation, and to keep oneself without spot from the world. See also 1 Tim chapter 5. 1-10. The point I was actually trying to make is people were/are encouraged to give up the education and jobs and work for ( they are told Jehovah) the organization full time but the organization has no plan in place to take care of them... they age out so to speak and have nothing to show for their years...You are correct...that system doesn't work...it uses people up and reassigns them to the mercy of the world. There may be some who the WT pays a bit...Does anyone know how all of that works...I just know that some who sold out and went to work at bethel, were quickly dismissed when their health failed...they came back to the mercy of others who would help them. Nothing fair about any of it.
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No pension no preparation for retirement
by Mikejw ina lot of my ex fellow servants must be now in their seventies, what can you do?.
no children no money no home.
it is so sad.. so many decided not to have children as the end was right around the corner and that was decades ago.
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I know a sister who married an older circuit overseer. she pioneered...in her 70's and nothing for her...she isn't well...gets the least SSI as near as I could learn about. What I understand from the Bible is Widows were to be looked after by the congregations if they had good reputation. If people fall on hard times, they are told to go to their relatives or to social services. I also understood a local retired CO gets some monthly money from the WT which he doesn't need and returns...- why wouldn't he think to give it to this sister in need? He knew of her circumstances.the congregations don't really take care of their own...it is lip service when they say they do. the service group overseer told me if I needed anything to let them know. They barely knew my name...they didn't know I had a husband, let alone that he had died.
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Elders won't tell you who have falsely accused you
by enoughisenough inhaving been a victim of this practice twice, i thought i would see if others had the same experience.
on one occassion, i was before the elders being told i was drunk on a certain day at a certain time.
( this was only brought up because when i was pushing for a meeting because of elder mr x adultery , i was threatened somethings would be brought out about me if i persued the meeting.
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DesirousOfChange16 minutes ago
Matt 18:15 -- the accuser should go directly to the individual first.
Only after that fails should the elders get involve
Exactly! and that didn't happen...Here is a worse true story: a pioneer sister was being accused of causing contentions in the congregationbecause of some conversation if the service. She asked to be told who these people were. Elder Mr X told me there was going to be a meeting with her because she wanted to know who all was speaking against her. If I had anything against that sister, I should go to the meeting and tell it...to which I replied The worst I had ever seen of her she called someone an ass.(and yes, he did report that comment in the roasting they gave her ) Anyway, she was surprised at the people who showed up to speak against because the elders had put out an invitation. They roasted her...Her elder husband who tried to defend her was threatened with loosing his privilege. They moved an hour away to another congregation where they were spied on and hounded. I don't remember is she disassociated or was df...at anyrate, her husband started seeing and doing odd things and accusing her of adultery.( she claimed unfounded) They divorced.
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Elders won't tell you who have falsely accused you
by enoughisenough inhaving been a victim of this practice twice, i thought i would see if others had the same experience.
on one occassion, i was before the elders being told i was drunk on a certain day at a certain time.
( this was only brought up because when i was pushing for a meeting because of elder mr x adultery , i was threatened somethings would be brought out about me if i persued the meeting.
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Having been a victim of this practice twice, I thought I would see if others had the same experience. On one occassion, I was before the elders being told I was drunk on a certain day at a certain time. ( this was only brought up because when I was pushing for a meeting because of elder Mr x adultery , I was threatened somethings would be brought out about me if I persued the meeting. Mr x knew where the lie came from but would never say. Another time I was invited into the back room- I was informed I had been shacking up in a motel 1.5 hours away...( some sisters told this and they would not give me the names of these liars! ( I would have had them eat their words ) another sister told me these ones were just waiting for the annoucement I was DF. Anyway, why is it allowed you can be accused of wrong doing, but you are not allowed to know the name of your cowardly lieing accusers?
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How far do we get away from 1914
by PimoElder inhow far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.
they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .
with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.
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enoughisenough
in my phone in "meeting" when I disassociated- I learned from elder that God's time table is different from ours, so that generation who saw 1914 has not passed away--so whatever story that works to keep yourself in blinders.