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  unbaptized boy having priority over women

  by enoughisenough in

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  i was thinking about the male children ( even unbaptized ) being placed ahead of the sisters.

  ; and i thought the jw were raising a bunch of misogynist.

  would these kids not feel more important than their mothers let alone other women.

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  My wife and women in the congregation are quite relieved. It was frustrating to see my wife prance around the hall with the microphone during the 1-hr Watchtower study, while perfectly fit men were warming their seats. In fact, its demeaning to use women for these mundane tasks that can be easily done by men and boys.

  Last year during a CSA case in my congregation, my wife was asked to be there with the victim lady during all the sessions that elders had. Now thats a good way to use a woman in the congregation.
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  Who told the first lie?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is a continuation of the discussion which sprang from an unrelated topic.. so according to genesis, who told the first lie?

  god told eve that if she ate from the tree of knowledge she would die that very same day.

  in response to that statement the devil told her she would not die.. eve ate from the tree and did not die.

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  Drearyweather

  He is a frightening being, when we recognize that his actions are who he is.

  Yes, the NT makes it clear too:

  Hebrews 10:31: It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

  Many people are drawn to this part of being submissive to a God who has a monstrous side and a loving side. My mother who was a victim of domestic violence by our father became a JW due to this frightening aspect of Jehovah - a God who exacts justice and revenge. Quick to smash and kill people in the book of Judges and then a merciful side in the Book of Ruth. She faced and endured my Dad's drunken wrath due to her devotion. We kids saw her literally praying and crying and then soothing herself to sleep while talking to her God.
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  August issue is now up on JW.com

  by ozziepost in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just a heads up that the english version with the changed cover is now up on jw.com.. i haven’t yet read it but if any you have the time i’m looking forward to people’s insights.. in the meantime i must find a red 🍷.

  cheers,.

  ozzie (of the ‘is he still here?’ class ).

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  Drearyweather

  Notice how it’s not a personal decision about whether or not the person will continue to associate, but the ‘decision’ is to not associate.

  But isn't that what Paul says: "keep this one marked and stop associating with him". There is no question of deciding whether to associate or not. Just that rather than enforced by elders, this will be an individual's personal decision to mark him, which he cannot enforce on anyone else.

  These aren’t reforms…

  Yes, these are just change of terminologies to match the terms mentioned in the Bible. The term disfellowship was never there in the Bible, and thus for outsiders shunning looked like a practice
  which was not Bible-based. Now in courts you can just quote the scripture and tell that this practice of removing wrongdoers is directly mentioned in the Bible.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses - summary critique

  by aqwsed12345 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since 1931, they have called themselves jehovah’s witnesses.

  founded in 1879 by charles taze russell (1852-1916).

  jw’s publisher is the watchtower bible and tract society, and their publications include "the watchtower" and "awake!

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  Drearyweather

  The only lengthy posts over here I ever enjoyed reading were of Leolia's. I even took notes while reading them and kept my Bible open as she skillfully went from one scripture to another analysing them with proper research and backed-up evidence.
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  Did you suffer from not saluting the flag in school as a kid?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  what happened?.

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  Drearyweather

  I can show you all the evidence in real life situations.

  Thanks DOC, I know. I have 2 cousins who are disfellowshipped.

  I am simply asking if the WT asks parents to kick their minors out of the house when they are disfellowshipped.

  Again, minors. Not adult children.
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  Did you suffer from not saluting the flag in school as a kid?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  what happened?.

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  Drearyweather

  Are you serious... we all know that this is standard procedure, who are you trying to fool? Go and boil you buttocks,

  I won't drop to your level of language usage. Read my question again. I am talking about WT encouraging parents to ask their minor children to leave the house once they are disfellowshipped. Is that the standard procedure?
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  Did you suffer from not saluting the flag in school as a kid?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  what happened?.

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  Drearyweather

  But, I doubt he would agree that he fought in 3 wars to allow JW parents kick their questioning teenagers out the house on the street and shun them.

  Can you show references from JW literature where parents are encouraged to throw disfellowhipped minors/teenagers out of their house?
  
  
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  The org. Came out with a Christmas song!!!!

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  holy nativity batman!

  on jw broadcasting.

  final song for this year's convention.

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  Drearyweather

  Yes, it was a surprise to many JW's, who felt the song titled "Good News!" would be about the good news of the paradise earth, but its based on good news that the angels gave to the shepherds about the messiah being born. and its one song where the name Jehovah doesn't appear. Just a shortened version - Jah. These are the lyrics:

  Good News

  “Glory in the heights above”—

  Good news for all men—

  When God’s Son arrived in Bethlehem.

  Hope for those who mourn,

  A Savior has been born!

  (CHORUS)

  Good news, this good news—

  Joy for all mankind—

  Praise Jah for his light!

  Good news, this good news—

  Preach with all your might.

  Good news, Christ is born—

  The way, the truth, the life.
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  How many different "rules" do Jehovah's Witnesses have to obey? Can you count them?

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  all the big changes for jws since this last fall brought me back to this site, and got me and the wife talking.

  just how many things were we not allowed to do growing up as jehovah's witnesses?

  we were so used to all the rules, customs, and traditions, that we became used to them.. one site i found claims there are 141 unique rules!!

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  92. Do suggestive and immodest dancing in a public place
  98. Wear revealing clothes
  95. Use of bad language (curse words) is discouraged

  Many decent people, apart from JW's don't do the above three.

  Just a list of a lot of repetitive stuff, for e.g.:

  10. Say the Pledge of Allegiance 11. Salute the flag 12. Vote 13. Run for leadership in their organization. (JW's are 'appointed' and invited to be leaders.) 14. Run for leadership in any organization 15. Take a stand for any political issue inside their organization 16. Take a stand on any political or 'worldly' issue outside of their organization 17. Campaign for a political candidate 18. Hold political office 19. Discuss politics. 113. Believe in ghosts 114. Witchcraft 115. Black magic 116. White magic 117. Consult with a psychic or become one 118. Study tarot cards, get a reading or give a reading 119. Study numerology or get a reading 120. Dabble in ESP (extrasensory perception), dowsing, or divination
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  Money Is The Answer For Everything - Eccl. 10: 19 (NASB)

  by Sea Breeze in

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  2. beliefs

  do jehovahs witnesses believe eccl.

  10: 19 is literal or is limited in application in some way?

  money is the answer for everything - eccl.

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  Drearyweather

  These are some of the explanations from JW literature on this verse:

  Dining with friends can be most enjoyable, but to obtain bread or wine, you need money. Since money is the means by which material things are obtained, it “meets a response in all things.”

  Yes, a good meal may be enjoyable. But neither food nor drink can be obtained without money. In this world, money is a necessity. It is a valuable asset that must be managed wisely.

  Eating, along with pleasant conversation, can be most enjoyable. But bread cannot be obtained without money, and there is limited rejoicing from drinking wine when a person has very little for life’s necessities. In this present system, money is the means by which all material things can be obtained and, therefore, it “meets a response in all things.” The thought behind Solomon’s statement may be that through industriousness a man can get the money he needs for bread and wine, for the comforts that add to the enjoyment of life.