we supposedly had more than a few “demonized” people in our congregation.
they would hear voices or feel internal punishment within their souls.
the answer was always—-these people were affected by the demons and they needed counseling!.
Typical Western misrepresentation of Hinduism.
I am an Indian, so I live, work and breathe among Hindus. Come here during Durga Puja or any Hindu house warming ceremony (just one example) and see yourself the lengths to which people can go to appease or resist wicked spirits. Hinduism in western countries is no where near the Hinduism that is practiced in its land of origin, India.
we supposedly had more than a few “demonized” people in our congregation.
they would hear voices or feel internal punishment within their souls.
the answer was always—-these people were affected by the demons and they needed counseling!.
The Dubs have to be only religion (cult) on the planet that are so obsessed with demons.
Come to India and see the religions here, especially Hinduism, an you will go crazy with their obsession with spirits and demonism.
i started studying with witnesses about 21 months ago.
started going to meetings in march 2017, went to the memorial and attended my first convention.
i love it.
but feel that I should leave
why?
lett announce to his braindead indoctrinated rank and file masses the wt corporation is short on funds and so they have money problems.
he made light of his role and the rest of management's predicament by saying on a public broadcast: "in doing the math we found that the amount of money flowing out will be much greater than the amount of money coming in at this time".
clearly the guys on the gb have very little business sense to let things get so out of hand with tons of projects in the works and having to close all of them except for warwick, and one in england.. i have to wonder just what type of math these dead heads on the gb even know or consider when making all their plans for the future of the corporation they have leadership over.
My big curiosity is this : I wonder how much of that 2 billion $$$$ is being deposited by the WT Society in off shore bank accounts where it can be hidden in the Cayman Islands or some other secret location ? It's a question I feel that begs an answer. If only I was a fly on the wall. Perhaps something to research - if anything can be discovered.
I wonder too. Did Ray Franz ever write anything on financial fraud within the WT? He was the member of the GB and a regular attendee of the Annual Meeting and had access to financial situation too.
Doesn't any ex-bethelite over here know if funds are swindled away?
i'm gobsmacked.. the 7 rock star popes in warwick know darned well that the 2 witness rule allows child rapists to get away with their crime.. geoff (whacko jacko) jackson was at the australian royal commission and should have seen first hand what a vile man made law the 2 witness rule is.. my question is, why do they still insist on this pervert protecting rule?.
i know it's a highly controlling cult but still...........................stuff my old boots, mate!.
the above is more a rhetorical question.
Here in India, many publishers beg the elders not to take the case to the police due to the crazy legal system and the social ostracism which is more horrendous than the disfellowshipping arrangement.
When the legal system of the country itself is running at a snail's pace, many victims try to find support and solace in their religious community and hence I would not blame the families who go to the elders rather than the police.
Sadly, there are rising amount of cases here where people are falsely accused of child sexual abuse and the police can pretty much torture an individual to confess a crime that he did not do. You can be pretty much be beaten into a pulp even on a slight hint of accusation. Mob justice takes precedence over everything. And I can only imagine how an elder can get torn down into this mess when he gets to know about a child abuse case.
i'm gobsmacked.. the 7 rock star popes in warwick know darned well that the 2 witness rule allows child rapists to get away with their crime.. geoff (whacko jacko) jackson was at the australian royal commission and should have seen first hand what a vile man made law the 2 witness rule is.. my question is, why do they still insist on this pervert protecting rule?.
i know it's a highly controlling cult but still...........................stuff my old boots, mate!.
the above is more a rhetorical question.
The two witness rule is an OT rule. Since when do they literally apply OT rules?
Matthew 18:16: on the testimony of two or three witnesses every matter may be established
2 Cor 13:1: This is the third time I am coming to you. “On the testimony of two or three witnesses every matter must be established1 Tim 5:19: Do not accept an accusation against an older man except on the evidence of two or three witnesses
so here is a tidbit you will all just love!.
we all are hearing of the trend right now to ¨downsize¨ the congregations...ie... eliminate by combining, in order to blah blah blah... .
here is what you didnt know: every time a congregation is dissolved, for whatever reason, including merging or dispersing, wt makes money!
WT MAKES MONEY!
Local JW's are fine with wherever their money goes. Either to the Congregation or the WT, it is somehow used for furthering "Kingdom Interests".
Once the money gets dropped in the contribution box, publishers don't have a say over it.
However, it would be a completely different case, if it can be proved that leaders of the WT are swindling money to their own personal accounts. Does any ex-bethelite have any proof that this happens? Did Ray Franz tell anything about financial fraud within the WT?
even wicked queen jezebel knew ‘what is good and what is bad’ because she described those who hurt others for no reason as “good-for-nothing.” (1 king 21:10).
from her comment the following universal truths can be discerned:.
1) everyone is endowed with the knowledge of good and bad, which makes god’s communication with humans unnecessary.
What is important is that even she knew what is good and what is bad
I know what you are trying to say. I was simply emphasizing the fact that socially acceptable application of the universal truth is more important than its possession.
Babies as small as six months old can discern the difference between a good nurse and bad one. Same applies to animals too, wherein, a dog knows whom to bite, whom to bark and before whom to wag its tail.
This ability can be called as discernment or an unlearned ability wherein, conscious beings learn good and bad due to an inbuilt instinct to survive. Individually, each person has a choice to do good or bad, however, socially, the law of the land decides what is good and acceptable, and what is bad and not acceptable, and hence there is a set of laws that decides what is good and bad, and this usually trumps individuals choice.
Whether we need God's guidance is left to an individual's choice. But socially, each person is bound by the secular law which validates what is good and what is bad.
even wicked queen jezebel knew ‘what is good and what is bad’ because she described those who hurt others for no reason as “good-for-nothing.” (1 king 21:10).
from her comment the following universal truths can be discerned:.
1) everyone is endowed with the knowledge of good and bad, which makes god’s communication with humans unnecessary.
she described those who hurt others for no reason as “good-for-nothing.”
Correct. And then by her works proved that she was good-for-nothing too.
i'm following an old friend on instagram who's an uber elder and he does lots of work on kh's and has gone to warwick on his own dime to help with the construction.
on his instagram post he says " i can't post pictures of the kh remodel but i can post pics of jack daniels that i had afterwards" or some such.
why aren't they allowed to take pics of remodels?
Why aren't they allowed to take pics of remodels?
Why don't you ask him rather than speculating?
