Thanks Atlantis!
Just shared it with a pimo friend, including a 'spoiler alert' warning. Lol
2020 memorial talk outline.. https://docdro.id/73bh2yg.
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petra!.
Thanks Atlantis!
Just shared it with a pimo friend, including a 'spoiler alert' warning. Lol
this was cringe worthy, and yet hilarious to watch.
i'm sensing that this was a person studying with jws because she's so bad at defending the very basics.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0rcmjczeb8.
One thing that also struck me when I left the cult was the change from 606 bc to 607 bc. Research made it necessary? Really?? What research? Oh, you mean your fraudulent overactive imagination? Just twist and f&#k with history?
As always, thanks JWfacts!:
"It seems to be well settled now in the minds of the anointed that the Gentile Times, which began in 606 B.C., ended in 1914: ..." Watchtower 1925 Mar 1 p.67
In the 1940's, the Watchtower Society admitted its calculations for the 2,520 were inaccurate, incorrectly factoring in a year zero between B.C. and A.D.. Rectification meant that the Gentile Times started in 1915. With so much vested interest in 1914, the Watchtower leaders decided to simultaneously change the year they claimed Jerusalem fell from 606 B.C. to 607 B.C., and hence retain 1914. This required ending the seventy years in 537 B.C., instead of 536 B.C.
"Providentially, those Bible Students had not realized that there is no zero year between "B.C." and "A.D." Later, when research made it necessary to adjust B.C. 606 to 607 B.C.E., the zero year was also eliminated, so that the prediction held good at "A.D. 1914."-See "The Truth Shall Make You Free," published by the Watch Tower Society in 1943, page 239." Revelation - Its Grand Climax at Hand! p.105
Such an arbitrary move from 606 B.C. to 607 B.C. is only possible because the Watchtower does not deem it necessary to substantiate either year with historical proof.
The difficulty with this move was that by the 1940's historians had proven that Babylon fell in 539 B.C.
in a local newspaper attention for the merging and sell of a kingdom hall in a dutch village.. the funds are being used for building in other country's.
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https://zuid.zenderstreeknieuws.nl/nieuws/algemeen/788011/ijsselsteinse-jehova-s-getuigen-samen-met-nieuwegein-.
Thanks Gorby.
The article says 'Nederland telt inmiddels 30.000 leden' which means 'Meanwhile the Netherlands has 30,000 members'.
ThIs may give the (false) impression of some recent cumulative growth, but The Netherlands already has shown that average of 30,000 members for decades now while population has grown with millions since the 70's.
So much wishful thinking...don 't trust them.
i've never been that big on video/computer games but i used to have a ps2 and my absolute fav game was star wars battlefront ii, released by pandemic in 2005.. you could choose to play as three different classes of soldier and fight for the rebels, the imperials, the republic or the battle droids.
as you played and gained points by killing the enemy, you could unlock a fourth and fifth class of soldier.
you could also play as a hero or villain - such as darth vader, luke skywalker, princess leia, etc.. there was something absolutely awesome playing as darth vader and cutting down or force-choking rebel soldiers on the tantive iv.. .
admit it, we all have things that we reel off when people ask what our favourite music is, just the same as if people ask what our favourite movies are.
we're meant to say "citizen kane" and "casablanca" and not "battleship" or "pacific rim" but we know what we're going to watch if they are ever on tv at the same time (and which ones we've never actually seen).. so how about some confession time?
what do you listen to when no one else is in the house?.
Nice topic!
My confession goes back to the 90's, when grunge, alternative rock and nu-metal reigned supreme. Country music was not done in most of my social circle but God did I love those tunes, still do... lol
Thanks for sharing that experience redvip. Reminded me of this:
*** w99 4/15 p. 29 Questions From Readers ***
Probably an employee assigned to run the cash register or to fill the shelves only occasionally handles cigarettes or religious items; that is a small part of his overall work. What a contrast, though, with an employee in the same store who works at the tobacco counter! All his work, day in and day out, focuses on something contrary to Christian beliefs. (2 Corinthians 7:1) This illustrates why the degree of involvement or contact must be evaluated in deciding employment questions.
I guess it's safe to assume that the same principle can be applied to video stores. Your good friend was well aware of the grey area wisdom from Jah's most important channel of spiritual food.
redvip2000, lol don't you agree that porn stores also need to hear the good news? Who else than AM III would be a perfect soldier of Christ, being a Vietnam veteran who gained extra spiritual powers as an anointed GB member! Telling porn stores that carnal lust and desire will absolutely have no place in God's kingdom is not for the faint hearted.
with the ramped up rhetoric the last few years many were totally convinced the end would be here by 2019-20 .
and instead of making due, the org.
has burdened the brothers once again to donate and volunteer for the new and improved patterson and video production center to be completed by 2026!
Smiddy, Jehovah is the source of all energy, don't ask questions about electricity and infrastructure ... have faith!
just curious if anyone has ever been to an assembly with zero baptisms.
if not, i see that happening soon and cant wait for that awkward day!.
I had it once and it felt awkward. Like blondie and hoser said, the baptism talk wasn't cancelled (unfortunately) and was supposed to be a peptalk and a reminder of everyone's own baptism. Some tried to be positive and made it proof of 'how close we were to the big A' but it still felt 'wrong'. No youth no future, right?
Right!
i am having trouble locating what is the 1914 prophecy?
jw.org states that the jw's accurately predicted the events of 1914, but do not indicate what the predictions were, or the specific fulfillments.
what do jw's think they are (predictions/fulfillments)?
Welcome Acer21.
I am having trouble locating what is the 1914 prophecy?
JW.org states that the JW's accurately predicted the events of 1914, but do not indicate what the predictions were, or the specific fulfillments. What do JW's think they are (predictions/fulfillments)?
You can't trust JW.org on many, many matters, 1914 being one of them. They lie about their organisational history. You need to research older WT publications to discern the truth about 1914.
What JW's think is not what they are allowed to think, unless it's in line with official WT dogma. In private, they might admit some errors (and not even in all cases), but mostly they will not risk their membership by discussing the flaws and errors in public. Needless to say that WT is a high control cult that keeps members under control by use of FOG (fear, obligation, guilt).
I wonder...
Are you JW?
Have you researched https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/failed-1914-predictions.php or other recommended sources yet? Please let us know if it was useful.
Good luck!