I used to think the anti-college rhetoric began with Knorr and Franz because one didn't go and the other didn't complete. Is there any indication that the Da Judge was anti-university? I also believe those at the top don't like to know those beneath them are smarter than they are.
wisdomfrombelow
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Governing Body Hates Higher Education Because It Destroys Their Delusion
by frankiespeakin inin an effort to keep their delusion alive it is only natural for them hate something that lifts the vails of their delusion and lay it barren.
their hate is transfered to the faithful rank and file and manifested in their forbidding it to the young who will surely see the ignorance of their delusion.
narcissistic delusions of divine appointment are resisted at the expense of the young.. they hate higher education to the same extent they hate psychiatry because both tread on their delusion and identify it in clear terms..
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Well an old friend found me. Now I'm in her cross hairs to get active again.
by wha happened? inugh.
on one hand i'm glad she's ok. rather sickly.
but once she got word i've been inactive, she's all hot and bothered to get me back to meetings.. "did you attend the memorial this year?".
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wisdomfrombelow
If she's really a friend she'll keep in touch because she cares about you but she'll learn that your made a choice and come to respect that.
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local memorial attendance
by outsmartthesystem inso i have a friend that is still "in" because of his elderly parents.
he attended the memorial and reported back to me what i thought was encouraging.
we have two congregations in the city i live in.
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wisdomfrombelow
Does anyone know which day of the week the memorial was held those years? I have a feeling that might make a difference in attendance.
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Anyone have a record of lies told by the WT.
by jam inexample, in print (may 22, 1969 wt, you will never die).. bold face lies, to show that this organization have been lying.
out of their rear since day one.
be denied.
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wisdomfrombelow
A very well educated brother once held up the Weekly World News and said "it's all true". He said it in relation to how we call our literature "Truth". I now understand how he had to think that way in order to survive in this religion.
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Elders Call Off Meetings A Lot More Easily Than They Did Before For Inclement Weather
by minimus inthe meetings were cancelled in this area with only 2 inches of snow for the "storm''.
lol.
a month ago the co had the meeting cancelled because it was a bit tracherous, which i thought was a good call..... years`ago, if we cancelled a meeting it took until one hour before the presiding overseer would finally decide to cancel.. today's jws are wimps..
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wisdomfrombelow
I personally like it when they call off meetings. The more notice that is given the better it is for all involved.
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OH POOR RUTHERFORD! Not!
by clarity injust wanted this for my records and for the newbies who don't know .
that rutherford & co never "fulfilled the prophetic" - 3 yrs in prison!.
http://www.freeminds.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=441:did-j-f-rutherford-lie-about-being-exonerated&catid=27:rutherford&itemid=342.
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wisdomfrombelow
Does anyone know the name of the officer that was released and not sent to jail? Is the list of the 7 others readily available?
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What group within the Witnesses has the highest drop out rate?
by Ultimate Axiom inif you could categorise jehovahs witnesses into their various groups, i.e.
publisher, auxiliary pioneer, regular pioneer, special pioneer, missionary, co, do, bethel worker, born-ins, etc etc, (and you can subdivide into as many groups as you wish) what group do you think has the highest drop out rate?
i remember an ex ny bethellite saying that bethel cured him of the watchtower, and after reading the thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/160509/1/warren-schroeder-from-bethel-on-freddy-kline-and-the-apostate-books my guess is that it would be ny bethellites, but i am interested to know if there is a consensus on this, or on any other group, or no group at all..
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wisdomfrombelow
I guess it depends on what you've invested and how painful the exit will be. Once people get promince and are in special full-time service, they really are financially bound. They lose the prestige and have to fend for themselves in the real-world where they are ill-equipped and might not have any non-witness friends or family. CO and DO might be the least likely to leave because they often don't have any real roots as they are constantly moved around.
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What if you simply IGNORED being disfellowshipped and continued as before?
by Terry ini know this is an odd idea.
maybe it is even silly.. but, i do daydream..... .
what if you were informed that you are disfellowshipped and you flashed a huge smile and said, "nah.".
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wisdomfrombelow
Terry,
Your specific case is much different then the scenario that you mentioned initially. They no longer state publicly the reason why someone is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses so the rank and file are left to wonder. On another note, "innocence" is relative. Not related to your case but people can be kicked for smoking when under duress, for having a child through artificial insemination, for making personal decisions about medical treatment and for not blabing about a sin someone else did that they were aware of. Since no one knows the reason WHY, people don't have enough information to decide anything for themselves about how they feel about the case. When you hit them "in the pocket book" it has a lasting affect on those who did the injury.
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Has Anyone Ever Been DF'd, Moved and Then Just Started Over Again ???
by RubaDub ini know that people jump through all sorts of hoops to get reinstated, typically for family reasons.. if you happened to move to a different area, wouldn't it just be easier to accept some literature, study, get love-bombed, etc.
you could then switch congregations and fade and not have the df status anymore.. am i smoking something ?
i can't believe this has not been done before ?.
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wisdomfrombelow
Why would someone want to do that? I have heard of people just attending meeting and resuming the JW lifestyle after moving and just not informing their new congregation about their old congregation. I know of people that have moved BEFORE getting DF'd and attended meetings not worrying about what happened before. I believe if you are not a member of the congregation then they can't disfellowship you. They wouldn't be able to fill out the form properly if they don't know your baptism date (perhaps i am wrong about that)
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What if you simply IGNORED being disfellowshipped and continued as before?
by Terry ini know this is an odd idea.
maybe it is even silly.. but, i do daydream..... .
what if you were informed that you are disfellowshipped and you flashed a huge smile and said, "nah.".
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wisdomfrombelow
People are often confused when you attend meetings while disfellowshipped and smile and sing and talk. They are puzzled when your behavior doesn't match what they expect but I don't think it will change how they treat you--at least in public at the Kingdom Hall. Bring some people with you (non-jw) and that causes more confusion for them because it is awkward to talk to them without talking to you.
Even if you are kind and offer a ride to a witness who needs it or shovel their driveway when there is snow, there can be repercussions for the recipient. That creates fear for them and confusion.
As I see it, spending countless hours at the meetings with the hope of helping someone at random realize TTATT is about as effective as spending countless hours in the door-to-door work to convert a complete stranger.