Posts by plmkrzy

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HOW ABOUT MENTIONING JESUS AT THE MEMORIAL!

by Mary in

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well i went last night...........did anyone else notice how the talk focused almost exclusively on the 144,000???

jesus was barely mentioned.

the first couple of minutes talked about when the israelites left egypt and the passover was instituted.

plmkrzy

about the number of arch-angels. This would be based on beyond the Hebrew scriptures as far as I know. Not sure.

After the return and the healing of the blindness of the elder Tobias, Azarias makes himself known as "the angel Raphael, one of the seven, who stand before the Lord" (Tob., xii, 15. Cf. Apoc., viii, 2). Of these seven "archangels" which appear in the angelology of post-Exilic Judaism, only three, Gabriel, Michael and Raphael, are mentioned in the canonical Scriptures. The others, according to the Book of Enoch (cf. xxi) are Uriel, Raguel, Sariel, and Jerahmeel, while from other apocryphal sources we get the variant names Izidkiel, Hanael, and Kepharel instead of the last three in the other list.

I will "assume" Raphael is Satan

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Another religious fanatic. Warning. Disturbing read ....

by xjw_b12 in

jailed murder suspect plucks out eye .

sherman, texas (ap) -- a jailed man accused of killing and cutting out the hearts of his son, estranged wife and her daughter plucked out his own eye and then quoted from the bible, officials said tuesday.. andre l. thomas was in a county jail cell friday night when he tore his eye out of its socket with his hands, said grayson county sheriff keith gary.. thomas, 21, then quoted the verse mark 9:47: "and if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out.

it is better for you to enter the kingdom of god with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell.".

plmkrzy

Sure he did... he is Christian. Don't presume to think you have a monopoly on the use of the word "Christian".

maybe so but I still hate it when they write articles like this and do not state what religion the person is from.

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Another religious fanatic. Warning. Disturbing read ....

by xjw_b12 in

jailed murder suspect plucks out eye .

sherman, texas (ap) -- a jailed man accused of killing and cutting out the hearts of his son, estranged wife and her daughter plucked out his own eye and then quoted from the bible, officials said tuesday.. andre l. thomas was in a county jail cell friday night when he tore his eye out of its socket with his hands, said grayson county sheriff keith gary.. thomas, 21, then quoted the verse mark 9:47: "and if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out.

it is better for you to enter the kingdom of god with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into hell.".

plmkrzy

The article does not mention a religion

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Who do you blame for the time you wasted as a DUB?

by Thunder Rider in

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friends

think of all the time and energy you wasted sitting in meetings, going door to door and refraining from making friends and having enjoyable association with non dubs.

think about how much of your finite life is lost to you because you were a witness.

think about how foolish you looked, hanging on to the false teachings and empty hopes for the future.

plmkrzy

Who do you blame for the time you wasted as a DUB?

no one

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Harmful or Dangerous?

by Sunspot in

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friends

in view of the recent ban in russia, and the statement that the government feels that the wts is considered harmful and dangerous, my thoughts are these;

i think that anyone or anything that purposely tampers with the very fabric of people's families, is dangerous, but that's just the way i see it.

maybe this sounds extreme, but then the watchtower society is extreme, and too, i speak from personal experience.. .

plmkrzy

perhaps using the word "detatch from" could have been better expressed but

Typical JWcultspeak

as a comeback is...well,typical of someone fresh and still overcoming issues.

Keep your emotions by all means, but it is not healthy to allow yourself to be ruled by them.

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eating the emblems AFTER memorial...

by AuSet in

sorry this is a little late for a memorial post, but did any of ya'll eat the emblems like it was just ordinary food immediately after the memorial?

they always did this at my kh, even the elders would be handing it out and we always would fight over who got a piece of the "bread.

" this usually occured out in the parking lot after most of the new/interested people had already high tailed it outta there.

plmkrzy

but did any of ya'll eat the emblems like it was just ordinary food immediately after the memorial? They always did this at my KH, even the elders would be handing it out

no, they always gave it to my mother after the memorial and anyone else that partook.

Never heard of it being passed around like that.

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Second question: If you weren't roped into this religion by your parents...

by 2good2bad in

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friends

would you have chosen this faith on your own?

is it too hard to live righteously?

do you really bel i eve it's a cult?

plmkrzy

Would you have chosen this faith on your own? Why not?

no

The only reason I grew up believing that it was the one true religion was because I ...grew up surrounded by it.

If I was brought up another religion I would have probably considered that religion to be true.

Hopefully I would have walked away from it as well when I realized there is no such thing as a one true religious organization.

That?s a question I would ask myself. If I was raised in any other religion would I have the same views of "religion" as I do now?

A cult? That?s like asking a recovering drug addict to say I am a drug addict in recovery. Not an easy thing to do.

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JW's BANNED IN RUSSIA - 04-01-04

by 4JWY in

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friends

jehovah's witnesses banned from moscow by russian court.

is the heading of the article in the religious section of our newspaper yesterday.

moscow (ap) a moscow court has banned the religious activities of jehovah's witnesses from the russian capital in a move that critics called a step back for democracy and religious freedom.

plmkrzy

It's hard for "them"

sunspot just exactly who are you referring to as "them"

I can only speak for myself but with 46 years experience under my belt with about 100+ years of additional experience to reference through parents and grand parents so if you think I am some kind of "outsider" not "in the know" about what?s what you are mistaken honey. I've been there and back and there and back again.

That?s IF you are including me in your short sited response. IF NOT then disregard,... every man for himself. I've learned to try and keep my personal "emotions" out of areas that require better judgment.

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So let it be written...So let it be done

by plmkrzy in

tonight, or last night since its early morning now, i stayed home and watched the annual release of "the ten commandments" .

i was just wondering, since there was never any real mention of the use of scribes during moses day and they were basically put to use after moses posted all those laws, who was writing all this stuff down every time the pharaoh said "so let it be written, so let it be done.

i don't recall seeing one scribe in that movie!

plmkrzy

Why in the hell did the Egyptians permit someone from Vladivostok to be their Pharoah?

He looked good in a short skirk?

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HOW ABOUT MENTIONING JESUS AT THE MEMORIAL!

by Mary in

jw
friends

well i went last night...........did anyone else notice how the talk focused almost exclusively on the 144,000???

jesus was barely mentioned.

the first couple of minutes talked about when the israelites left egypt and the passover was instituted.

plmkrzy

angel , [Gr.,=messenger], bodiless, immortal spirit, limited in knowledge and power, accepted in the traditional belief of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam and other religions. Angels appear frequently in the Bible, often in critical roles, e.g., visiting Abraham and Lot (Gen. 18; 19), wrestling with Jacob (Gen. 32.24?32), and guiding Tobit (Tobit 5). The Bible also speaks of guardian angels, protecting individuals or nations (Dan. 10.10?21; Mat. 18.10). In the Gospels an angel announced the Incarnation to the Virgin Mary (Luke 1), and an angel at the empty tomb revealed the Resurrection (Mat. 28.1?7). While Judaism has no fixed ordering of classes of angels, Christianity has a specific hierarchy. Codified in its classic form in the 5th cent by St.
, in The Celestial Hierarchy. In descending order the ranks of angels are seraphim, cherubim, thrones; dominations, virtues, powers; principalities, arch-angels, and angels. Roman Catholics and the Orthodox venerate angels, and the cult of guardian angels is especially extensive in the West (feast of Guardian Angels: Oct. 2). Protestants have generally abandoned the cult of angels. In Christianity, the angels of Hell, or dark angels, or devils, are the evil counterpart of the heavenly host; the chief of them, Satan (or Lucifer), was cast out of heaven for leading a revolt. They are often viewed as the initiators of evil temptations. Famous literary treatments of angels are those of John Milton's Paradise Lost and Dante's Divine Comedy. Angels play an important role in many other religions. Later Zoroastrian theology has numerous classes of yazatas "worshipful beings." Zoroastrian notions of angels influenced the intricate theories of heavenly beings of Gnostic systems and Manichaeism. In Islam the four archangels Jibrail, Mikail, Israfil, and Izrail (the Angel of Death) often act in place of Allah. The Kiram al-Katibin are the recording angels. According to a popular tradition, each person has two scribe angels, the one on the right side recording good deeds, the one on the left taking note of transgressions. A lower order of angels is the jinn

prince

Pronunciation: (prins),

?n.
1. a nonreigning male member of a royal family.
2. Hist.a sovereign or monarch; king.
3. (in Great Britain) a son or grandson (if the child of a son) of a king or queen.
4. the English equivalent of any of various titles of nobility in other countries.
5. a holder of such a title.
6. the ruler of a small state, as one actually or nominally subordinate to a suzerain: Monaco is ruled by a prince.
7. a person or thing that is chief or preeminent in any class, group, etc.: a merchant prince.
8. a person possessing admirably fine and genial characteristics: He is a prince of a man.

arch-angel

1.

Theol.a chief or principal angel; in medieval angelology one of the nine orders of celestial attendants on God. Cf. angel (def. 1).

I guess it's all in how one wants to interpret the meanings

question:

How many arch-angels are there mentioned in the scriptures?