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  Rumour 144,000 literal number teaching to be abandoned at Annual Meeting

  by slimboyfat in

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  say it ain’t so!

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  in one sense it’s a no brainer because the figures just don’t add up any more.. in another (negative) sense it’s a no brainer because it’s been fundamental to jws since year dot and might undermine the whole thing?

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  According to their doctrine there were tens of thousands in the first century. Then over the last 20 centuries there were an unknown number chosen some of the Bible translators and other Christians who were burned and such for their faith.

  Then in modern times even my grandfathers times around the time of WW2, most of the congregations were full of those who claimed a heavenly hope. My parents grew up in congregations that were full of so called anointed older ones.

  then slowly after the 1950s there were less and less anointed ones and you started to get older ones who had an earthly hope which was unusual.

  the numbers do not add up
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  Is there a 'for dummies' on Robert Hendriks thread?

  by carla in

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  can anyone give me a rundown or send me to a thread on the robert hendriks thing?

  he was recently 'dismissed' from bethel and was pid (public information department?

  ) i'm not even sure i have this right..... thanks much.

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  If Rob ever did exJw YouTube channel he would make a killing with revenue.

  We should all start a go fund page for him to do a tell us all everything you know.

  but these high profile figures often get a golden handshake to sign a non disclosure
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  Is Watchtower totally off base on Armageddon?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  to me it is quite evident that the gt spoken about in matthew 24, mark 13 and luke 21 is a one time, non-repeatable localized event resulting in the destruction of jerusalem and the temple followed by the dispersion of surviving jews throughout the nations.. however, what is not so clear to most is that the gt of revelation deals with the same event.

  my understanding is that the gb of jehovah witnesses has no clue as to how to interpret the apocalyptic messages found both in the synoptics and revelation.

  but steve greg has armageddon down pat.

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  me it is quite evident that the GT spoken about in Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21 is a one time, non-repeatable localized event resulting in the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple followed by the dispersion of surviving Jews throughout the nations.

  Some scripture is definitely not talking about ancient times but talking about the last days
  

  Mat 24:14 can’t be talking about ancient Jerusalem as the good news had to be preached in the entire inhabited earth before the end would come
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  Jehovah's Witness Governing Body, (New Light Division) Are Vegetable Oils not more important than Beards?

  by was a new boy in

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  'use vegetable oil and soft margarine in place of animal fat,'.

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101997444?q=vegetable+oil&p=par.

  'when possible, cook with unsaturated vegetable oils.'.

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  Let’s be clear, the direction to replace butter with margarine is very dangerous. It’s also very dangerous direction from Jehovah to consume seed oils heated to high temperatures.

  Do the opposite to that direction for healthy dietary habits. Replace margarine with butter. Eat whole eggs and fatty meat avoid seed oils heated to high temperature and practice intermittent fasting.

  You can eat less all round if you eat nutritious foods instead of processed nutrient deficient foods which leave you still hungry
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Yes if he moved back to London all he could get is a cleaner at McDonald’s 🤣
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  Listen obey and get vaxed

  by JohnR1975 in

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  the truth is most active jws would probably agree that most of the teachings are not right, the new thing is that we just don’t know.. the governing body now say they get things wrong and make mistakes as they are not inspired and not infallible.

  yet they are still to be trusted no matter what?.

  they are not trusted.

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  they did not advise getting the mpox vaccine

  Did they just not mention it, or did they actually say don’t get vaccinated?

  On the front page of jw.org the question is who can you trust, then a picture of a doctor in a white coat with a stethoscope????????????

  it is a bit late now, as has been said by a few on Reddit the GB told us to trust the doctors pushing these vaccines
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  Listen obey and get vaxed

  by JohnR1975 in

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  the truth is most active jws would probably agree that most of the teachings are not right, the new thing is that we just don’t know.. the governing body now say they get things wrong and make mistakes as they are not inspired and not infallible.

  yet they are still to be trusted no matter what?.

  they are not trusted.

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  My parents didn't take the vax, Dad is an elder, and neither did some of the other elders and their families.

  So your parents can’t go to any JW schools or special meetings?

  Your dad couldn’t go to elders schools or kingdom ministry school and neither can your mum now that elders wives are invited?

  unless they lie and say they are fully vaxed?
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  Begging for accomodations

  by road to nowhere in

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  local announcement has even pimis amused.

  wanting rooms for some event or refugees-not clear.

  private room with private bath.

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  For Chelmsford they had a lot of mobile homes donated by a rich family. It wasn’t clear if they were on loan or gifted, the family kind of wanted them back after. The GB said no we will sell them instead. True story
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  Jehovah's Witness Governing Body, (New Light Division) Are Vegetable Oils not more important than Beards?

  by was a new boy in

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  'use vegetable oil and soft margarine in place of animal fat,'.

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101997444?q=vegetable+oil&p=par.

  'when possible, cook with unsaturated vegetable oils.'.

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  If the GB have not done an official U turn then the old light still stands. So JWs should still replace butter with margarine and consume all these harmful seed oils heated to very high temperatures?

  after all would Jehovah really allow the GB and all the helpers to take these vaccines if they were harmful?

  no David Slain he doesn’t want you to take them but you know that now. Oh I forgot you don’t apologise when you tell people to take something that is harmful and tell them Jehovah’s direction is clear that these vaccines are safe for humans
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

  1. jw
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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  FWIW There is a poster who posts on this thread occasionally who went to the Wilmslow congregation with Lloyd. Lloyd himself confirmed (on X) that he did when this fellow took a selfie with Kim Silvio in front of the Wilmslow hall.

  He has stated that he knows the true identity of “Geoffrey”, the girl in question, and expressed his view that they will eventually come out and talk about what Lloyd did - such was their anger at him.

  In a footnote in TRA, Lloyd stated that Geoffrey was removed as an elder in 2014. So there could be some fire that results from all this smoke

  Could we all have a whip round and try to get crowd funding to locate these people?

  the truth always has a habit of coming out in the end