Posts by OneFingerSalute

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My field service group leader wants to meet me

by Powermetal4ever in

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he kind of invited me to a barbecue or something, and asked if my parents wanted to come along as well.

it felt really awkard, i mean i am 20++.

i was sceptic, so he told me he would send me a sms about an other fitting day instead.i probably didnt look too happy about that either, so he told me that maybe he could invite some other in the group.

OneFingerSalute

Enjoy the BBQ. Drink a few cold ones. Change the subject whenever he brings up religion.

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Observations About Today's WT Indoctrination

by OneFingerSalute in

this mornings wt was pretty amazing in it's totally asinine application of the term "relationship".. it started right off the bat asserting that jehovah is only interested in a relationship with "you" after "you" put forth the effort to get close to him.

par 14 said to be specific in prayer so you could see "subtle" answers.

par 15 then directly contradicted par.

OneFingerSalute

This mornings WT was pretty amazing in it's totally asinine application of the term "relationship".

It started right off the bat asserting that Jehovah is only interested in a relationship with "you" AFTER "you" put forth the effort to get close to him. I asked a person I know, "What would people think of me if I went in the hall and just sat in a chair ignoring everyone and waited for people to come to me, as a condition of being friendly?"

Then they said that communication with God is vital for a good relationship. The example of a long distance friendship was used, writing letters and phone calls. They said that humans talk to God by prayer and he answers when we read and meditate on the Bible. I could not resist raising my hand and making the comment, "We pray to God. Then we get an answer when we read and meditate on what the Bible says. However, the WT has stated many times in print that we cannot really understand the Bible without the "loving" instruction from the governing body who help us hear gods words after he inspires the governing body to let us know what the Bible really teaches." (normal head bobbing, shlt eating grin agreement)

Par. 8 basically said we shouldn't get upset if the Bible doesn't answer our questions. God knows best. Then some barely remembered OT example of a king with two different names was given. I wonder why they didn't use David and the way he got 70,000 innocents slaughtered for his actions?

Par. 10 informed us we don't need an explanation for everything God does. Reading between the lines one sees that one should never question the governing body as they are God's inspired mouth-piece. Actual wording was study and meditate on God's word the Bible, but how many times has the governing body said the Bible cannot be understood without their interpretation?

Par. 12 made the assertion that one should know God answers prayers, and that the belief that putting thoughts into prayer, identifying the issue, then setting ones mind on finding a solution is wrong. So much for the governing body mandate to "work in harmony with your prayers."

Par 14 said to be specific in prayer so you could see "subtle" answers. I would think if God wanted us to believe in his willingness to answer prayers he would be just a bit more obvious in his answers. Silly me!

Par 15 then directly contradicted par. 12 with a "experience" of someone who didn't like field serve us. She prayed, and then did something about it, and lo-and-behold she started to "love" field serve us. Why didn't she just magically love it after praying?

Then of course the guilt was laid on in the last paragraph. It said next week we get to find out how to face the "special challenge" of our personal problems persisting even when we pray. Of course OFS had to raise his hand and comment again. "We saw in par. 3 that friends will communicate with each other via letters and phone calls over long distance quite often. If one of the persons involved consistently ignored repeated letters, emails, and phone calls we would rightfully question the value of that friendship. So the special challenge we face today is when we repeatedly pray and see no answer to our prayers. The next article will tell us why that is our fault." (Damned head bobbing shlt eating grins again!)

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Good arguments on responsible gun control

by barry in

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friends

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll8jeet2rxi

OneFingerSalute

Something must be wrong with the firearms I own. In nearly sixty years not a single one of them has ever jumped up, loaded itself, marched out and shot anybody. One has though been in my hand and stopped a home burglary in progress until police arrived. And several rifles have provided wild game for the table.

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Can't sign out!

by stillin in

my wife has recently become very curious about my activity on my ipad.

i delete my browsing history but if she should discover this site and my identity here, she will gladly hand me over to the hangman, something i have managed to avoid for quite some time now,.

i hit the "sign out" button, but i find that i'm still logged in!

OneFingerSalute

I had the same issue, until I simply unchecked the "Remember Me" I am not on a public computer option.

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No shorts or printed T-shirts when making ready the stadium before the RC

by Powermetal4ever in

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friends

just heard the stupidest thing ever on this weeks service meeting: it was regarding the volunteers for cleaning the stadium before rc.

they are not allowed to wear shorts or printed t-shirts .but hey its summer!

its gonna be warm!

OneFingerSalute

Im pretty sure you can wear t-shirts with a blue square with the letters JW in the middle....

With half of the blue square on each side of the zipper so men could. . .well, you know.

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Re: Music at Theocratic Events

by pixel in

this is a crappy letter from the watchtower.

i'm only posting it to show how micro-managers these fools are.

and at the end, they say: "we should avoid making specific rules about somewhat technical matters".

OneFingerSalute

Wow, nine paragraphs of rules, about not making rules! UFB!!

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Very Offensive Statement Directed To JW Parents-Watchtower 4/15/2015 Page 11 Paragraph 9

by JW GoneBad in

wt is insinuating, worse yet, blaming senior jw parents for there not being more younger brothers reaching out to be ministerial servants and elders.

page 11 paragraph 9 reads as follows: .

"elders in affluent lands may face an added challenge: how to motivate baptized brothers in their 20s or 30s to get involved in congregation activities.

OneFingerSalute

I couldn't help but to give a snort of irritation when the footnote was read saying that if they were "mature" and met the "scriptural" qualifications then even teenage brothers could be appointed.

That is reassuring. After all if they are dunked at six, there is no reason they cant make MS by ten and elder by fifteen!

Dumb-asses!!

I guess the fifty years I spent on the hamster wheel just wasn't long enough, or my nose wasn't brown enough, or I didn't give enough green hand shakes or whatever the heII it was. Thank god I finally got smart and DISENGAGED and quit chasing the carrot!

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Learners

by freemindfade in

if you were at the watchtower how many times did you hear this idiotic condescending word?

i think i must have heard it 500 times.

the learner.

OneFingerSalute

For personal reasons I still attend. I noticed this condescending term and made mention of it to one of the now very elderly family members for whom I still attend (for the time being).

They could not believe that the WTB&T$ would use terms like that. So I showed them the article and then asked, "I wonder why the WT$ is making another layer of class distinction among the brothers?" They were as disgusted as I.

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McKinney Texas pool party?

by Marvin Shilmer in

so today i was asked my thoughts on the pool party incident in mcminney, texas.

my response: it shows a clash of expectations.

i saw police officers who expected citizens to listen to and follow instructions.

OneFingerSalute

Oh and if you didn't know cops use hollow point bullets so their chances of killing someone with one shot is greatly increased.

That is a very common misconception held by people ignorant of bullet balistics, so your ignorance of facts will be excused.

Hollow points are used not to increase the "kill" ratio, but because they expand rapidly, thereby not going through and through. The majority of police, whom some of you seem to hate, and contrary to your beliefs, do not want to kill. And when they are forced into an armed confrontation where they have only thousandths of a second to make a shoot or not decision, they do not want bullets going through the CRIMINALS and injuring civilians, but to safely and quickly neutralize the threat to themselves and even YOU.

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2015 Regional Convention Anthony Morris Governing Body encourages coerced baptism of unwilling children ...again

by Watchtower-Free in

this is from the last talk of the convention ......... clip 1:30 minutes longhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrej8tlyiso&feature=youtu.be.

OneFingerSalute

Most GBers, living a relatively cushy life, make it well into their 80's or 90's.

Can't remember exactly where but just recently I heard the comment that "humble elders will train younger men to fill their positions, and then modestly step aside.

I wonder how soon those old guys on the governing body will do what they told others to do?