Well spoken eulogy Mr Falcon... its kinda hard to forget what happened to Eric even though we didnt know him personally its still hard to get your head around him being gone.
Wherever he is right now... enjoy the peace dear chap!
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17Oompa, I'm sorry...
by Mr. Falcon inoompa,.
i'm sorry that you had to endure the pain you did.
regardless if you believe in god or not, what you were going through was sheer hell.. i'll keep this short, i won't eulogize you too long, 'cause i can kind of detect that you'd hate that.
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jemba
Stop hijacking interesting threads 144000 with boring, argumentative nonsense.
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JWs are attending the OSCE meeting in Warsaw as a Non-Governmental Organization (NGO) & giving presentations
by AndersonsInfo inwatchtower representatives (jehovahs christian witnesses) are once again attending the osce, organization for security and co-operation in europe,meeting in warsaw on september 24 - oct. 5, 2012. http://www.osce.org/hdim_2012to see jehovahs witnesses listed as a non-governmental organization, click on http://www.osce.org/hdim_2012?view=conference_documents&display=page_2&arg=92455.
please scroll down under non-governmental organization and click on administrative centre of jehovahs witnesses in russia as well as european association of jehovah's christian witnesses.
once you click on them, you will be brought to a page with a list of all of their presentations at the osce.
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jemba
Begs the question though, will they be upfront with their rank and file about the attendance (ie mention it in a Washtowel) or not mention it and hope it will go away.
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JWs are attending the OSCE meeting in Warsaw as a Non-Governmental Organization (NGO) & giving presentations
by AndersonsInfo inwatchtower representatives (jehovahs christian witnesses) are once again attending the osce, organization for security and co-operation in europe,meeting in warsaw on september 24 - oct. 5, 2012. http://www.osce.org/hdim_2012to see jehovahs witnesses listed as a non-governmental organization, click on http://www.osce.org/hdim_2012?view=conference_documents&display=page_2&arg=92455.
please scroll down under non-governmental organization and click on administrative centre of jehovahs witnesses in russia as well as european association of jehovah's christian witnesses.
once you click on them, you will be brought to a page with a list of all of their presentations at the osce.
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jemba
I dont get why they are there fighting for religious freedom when their big J will make everything ok anyway.
They are supposed to be no part of this world and i think its shocking that they are there in any way, shape or form if its not about an issue they already have on the table like a court case where they have to be there.
Yes I also think they are pursuing their own agenda. The JW religion I grew up with would never be a part of a forum for political negotiations..... or would it?
Everything we thought we knew about this cult has been dashed to pieces by JWN.
Thankyou to the Andersons for more eye opening information.
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oompa and myself
by varian inhey everyone.. i m sitting here with tears in my eyes.
you just can t imagine what i m going through richt now.
there are no words to describe it!.
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jemba
I feel ya Varian i really do. I think firstly you need to see someone about whether youre depressed, make this a matter of urgency. Its nothing to be ashamed of and its unfortunately a part of life for many, especially ex JWs.
I have been lonely and seeking a companion yet not being able to find anyone - it didnt help that it was in the confines of the WT. That person DOES eventually come along, I guarantee that one day you will look back and think about how lonely and sad you were and smile to yourself that you were strong enough to get through it. You will be quite the catch too, a sensitive man that takes care of his body!
After the pain we have seen the friends of Oompa go through it is a good idea to stop and think of all the people that will really miss you if you did end your life, we really have no idea of the tragedy of pain and suffering that awaits our death.
Im sure you dont see it now but your life is a gift to live and do as much as we can while we are here.... I didnt always feel this way, I have spent over 30 years of my life in a depressed haze and have finally come out the other side alive and not alone.
Get help my friend, even just a telephone counselling service for now, just do it first before you think of anything more destructive like booze, drugs or self harm.
Jemba
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Half a hundred! How did THAT happen?!
by Aussie Oz inwell, the big five o today.. how did that happen?
i can't be half a hundred for fucks sake, i only just got born again (and not in the christian sense)!.
can i get seniors discounts and insurance i wonder?
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jemba
Happy Birthday Oz!! Here in Australia we never get old theres just too much fun to be had. Enjoy yourself mate, have a coldie for me.
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SAD news about OOMPA......
by redredrose inour friend, oompa, has passed away.
just recieved the news a couple of hours ago, and have almost no details.
it happened today or yesterday, he took his own life.
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jemba
Oh Eric, Im so sad that you couldnt hold on any longer, the pain was too bad. I truly hope you are in a wonderful place where you can feel all the love we have for you here and there is no pain, only peace.
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hello I recently got away from the so called "truth" looking for people to talk to
by LuLu4YouYou inhello my name is louis.
i have seperated myself from the jws and am looking for people to talk to.
i dont have many people in my life who will even speak to me anymore or even acknowledge that i exist.
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Welcome Louis, did you fade away from JWs, get DF or DA yourself? I faded away over a few
years but they shun me anyway- no great loss. I hope you find frienship and comfort here like me.
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What REALLY Convinced You To Leave/Lose Faith in JWs?
by Recovery inid like to know what personally convinced you jws are wrong about a particular doctrine/practice, that they are not gods true.people and/or what made you leave emotionally/physically.
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My Husband kept coming home with info from a workmate who loved researching religion. He told me about 1914, the UN and a few other things, I was quite defensive but decided to find out for myself. I have since thanked that guy for starting our journey away from the cult together as a family.
I had already faded because of many reasons but mostly the unreasonableness of DF and how it had already broken up my family in the past, also I had a panic/nausea problem whenever I went to the meeting. It was great to get out mentally as well as physically. Leaving the cult has also cured my depression.
I no longer believe in the bible due to the excellent book 'Athiests book of bible stories'. It makes a lot of sense and is quite funny.
I believe in a creator who got the evolutionary ball rolling but I dont believe in a personal God who intervenes in any way with humans. I think there are far more interesting things than us people on earth, to god our whole universe is probably like just one of the grains of sand on a beach. I think that much of the human race is too proud to realise that we are not even a spec on gods radar.
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My video recorded apostasy trial is now live
by RayPublisher inpart 3 (which is where the actual meeting begins) is finished.
it took my computer hours and hours to render and upload it!!
anyway, this is what i just posted on my youtube channel:.
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jemba
Awesome Ray!! One of the best things Ive seen since leaving the org!!
You pretty much had them speechless, they had no response to much of what you said because you caught them unawares. It was funny to watch them squirm and fidget in their seats, poor Cosmo...lol.
Your humble, kind manner was great.
It is so appreciated that you have gone to the trouble to show us all what you went through and what its really like in a JC. I would however like to say that the elders on my JC would never have let me get in a word, only to cooerce me to say what they wanted me to admit.
An important point here is that we all really need to be prepared like you and not go in and wing it if we want to make an impact. I really hope they think twice about what you have brought up and that others learn that you may be outnumbered but you dont have to sit there and just take whatever they have to dish out.
Thankyou so much for keeping us updated and informed. Great job!!