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  Why Is Watchtower (Supposedly a Family Friendly Christian Publisher) Obsessed with Oral Sex?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you do a search on the wt website and type in "oral sex", you will get 69 results.

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/s/r1/lp-e?q=oral+sex&p=par&r=occ&st=a .

  why does the wt.

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  NotFormer

  "Fred Franz "lets talk about the Bible" in the sauna with no clothes fests were a no go for me."

  How did Bethelites find out that this sort of thing was happening and not question their life choices to date? You obviously did!
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  Why Is Watchtower (Supposedly a Family Friendly Christian Publisher) Obsessed with Oral Sex?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you do a search on the wt website and type in "oral sex", you will get 69 results.

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/s/r1/lp-e?q=oral+sex&p=par&r=occ&st=a .

  why does the wt.

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  NotFormer

  carla: "AND NO, Christian churches do not have these discussions around children"

  BINGO! I've spent nearly 50 years in mainstream Christian churches* and I don't ever recall explicit and graphic detail of sexual acts being mentioned from the pulpit. And remember, most kids leave the main service halfway through to go to Sunday School or Kids' Church**, where they receive age appropriate teaching and craft activities.

  * Anglican, Presbyterian, Baptist, Independent Fundamentalist Baptist, Open Brethren, Uniting Church, Church of Christ, Various Pentecostal denominations. Even non-mainstream sects I've attended, like Christadelphians and SDA never aired that sort of thing in front of kids. JWs seem to be unique in this regard.

  ** In my experience, most of those featured teachers who were thoroughly vetted and supervised.
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  Mandated Shunning is a Crime

  by Lee Marsh in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  mandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.

  shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.

  mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.

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  NotFormer

  Bringing this thread BTTT. I don't know if it died out before the Norwegian government did what they did to the WT. The GB seems to have responded to the threat of losing their funding by relaxing* some of their rules on disfellowshipping and shunning.

  Was it a step in the right direction?

  * We all know that there's nothing kinder and gentler about any of it 🙄
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  "A Jehovah's Witness"

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a very certain distinctive of jws is how they refer to themselves.

  "one of jehovah's witnesses".

  it's one of those coded jargon thingies.

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  NotFormer

  I am not 'a' anything. Israel was a people, Christians are a people. not 'a' anything.

  Jehovah's Witnesses are a people?
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  Cedar Point Ohio 🙄🙄🤦🏻‍♂️

  by xaminewt in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i started doubting the organization when i was 15. i spent the next 12 years doing in-depth research involving numerous emails with bible scholars and scientists.

  i finally left the organisation 3 years ago.

  technically i was never actually a jw as i was never baptised, so i’m not being shunned.

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  NotFormer

  "...if they wanted to be consistent"

  Herein lieth their problem!

  It looks like they* found the first dating method that fit the agenda du jour. None of them make sense, even at first, and trying to make them line up with each other is a fool's errand.

  * Probably meaning Rutherford and his toadies.
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  any JW construction going on other than Warwick?

  by Magnum in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  is anybody aware of any kingdom hall builds going on or any kind of ldc activity?

  i've been wanting to ask this, and committeechairman's question at the end of this thread, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/289353/ldc-semininar?page=4&size=20, moved me to go ahead and ask.. i've kind of wondered whether the org leaders got rid of rbcs and instituted the ldc arrangement because they wanted to be able to stop or slow down construction without it being obvious.

  if the rbcs were still in existence, it would be obvious that there's nothing (or almost nothing) going on (if that really is the way it is) because rbc personnel would be idle when they were used to being busy.

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  NotFormer

  ThomasMore, LDC, RDC meanings? (I assume that the C stands for "committee")
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  EXPLOSIVE NEW LEAKED VIDEO OF C.O. CHASTISING ELDERS

  by raymond frantz in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://youtu.be/np05twylal8?si=wjcdevvpxmlwxb2p.

  shame is an ancient form of control.

  shame is the mechanism used to control behaviour.

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  NotFormer

  I can't watch stuff like that, but I don't imagine that the infantilisation of grown adults is pleasant to watch.
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  Disfellowshipping and Excutions

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  *w60 2/1 80 - 17 there may be rare instances where a child is so hardened in its stubbornness that even the rod of correction cannot drive it out.

  in the days of israel parents were instructed by jehovah to take such a rebel to the city fathers and they, in turn, took the incorrigible one out and stoned him to death.

  there were no juvenile delinquents under such a system.

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  NotFormer

  She is not in the truth today nor is her daughter.

  Given their experiences, do you blame them?
  
  
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  Setting the record straight. CSA report in New Zealand

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  ok i just want to officially set the record straight about the report of csa in new zealand.

  i have a pimo relative who lives in nz.

  as far as public awareness, with regard to the jws, it was basically a big nothing burger.

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  NotFormer

  You're right, Blondie, that the other groups are larger and higher profile, and therefore attract more attention. I can't help feeling that the WT punches way above its weight statistically, though. Not that we'll ever really know what those statistics are. 🤥
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  How would you rate the Watchtower approved songs?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was asking why jws won't sing any church hymns even if they were doctrinally correct.

  jws asked me in response if i would sing any of their songs.. dan watkins wrote .

  its a hilarious misunderstanding, if it does not come from the watchtower bible and tract society, then it is effectively considered as coming from satan.

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  NotFormer

  "They'll probably soon use AI to create their art and music, more Bethelites on the streets."

  Is the "music ministry" large enough to justify permanent Bethelites anyway? Once a new songbook and the accompanying recordings are done, wouldn't the Bethelites involved be assigned back to their regular duties? Does anyone know how the songbook system works?