https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/528110/supreme-court-dismisses-jehovah-s-witnesses-final-appeal-for-abuse-in-care-exemption.
1:10 pm on 16 september 2024 .
anusha bradley, investigative reporter.
I said this in Blondie's thread:
But a disturbing thought occurred to me. New Zealand's Bethel was closed down and operations in NZ are now directed from Australia's Bethel in NSW. I imagine that any documents pertaining to the cases that the Royal Commission are interested in are now on Australian soil. Which to me looks like being a legal nightmare when it comes to trying to subpoena those documents.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/528110/supreme-court-dismisses-jehovah-s-witnesses-final-appeal-for-abuse-in-care-exemption .
Nice to see. WT thinks they're special, but they are still subject to the law.
But a disturbing thought occurred to me. New Zealand's Bethel was closed down and operations in NZ are now directed from Australia's Bethel in NSW. I imagine that any documents pertaining to the cases that the Royal Commission are interested in are now on Australian soil. Which to me looks like being a legal nightmare when it comes to trying to subpoena those documents.
... is just three weeks from this saturday.
the org has been tight-lipped, really, successfully secret about advance info on these in recent years,.
now that these relatively recent changes on dress and grooming, reporting fs time, judicial matters, etc.
Changes will probably be precipitated by whatever current court cases against and government investigations into the WT are happening at the moment. Any obvious smoking guns?
Perhaps they've changed enough over the last year or so to their satisfaction. Experiencing change fatigue? Maybe they're pausing for a tea break, David Lange style.
i can't find a answer to this- what type of transfusions are not accepted-.
prbc( packed red blood cells).
ffp- fresh frozen plasma.
This is an odd first post. What help and advice are you actually after?
https://youtu.be/ze4q_7_-uo4?si=l0xe0drc5a9urhyt.
so there was a time the awake magazine was printed every 15 days but now since jehovah is blessing them so much the magazine is printed once a year, and here you have the 1st edition for the year , which is nothing more than an informatial of how good of a charity they are to their local community.
so we read in the following box: what we are doing firstly, jehovah’s witnesses promote a balanced, healthy lifestyle.
It is incomprehensible to think somebody would let their child die.
The horrible thing is not so much "letting" the child die as "making" the child die! 😱
Because, ultimately, that's what some have done. 😞
according to the next boe letter to be read at next week's midweek meetings in the united states,.
the theme of the convention for next year is.
pure worship.
"1914 + 120 years given to Noah to building ark before flood came brings us to 2034"
Blondie, twenty or so years ago, the WT discovered that link* and mentioned it. It led to speculation on here that 1934 might become a new date. It seems to have fizzled out between then and now. Obviously the new GB doesn't have the same appetite for dating shenanigans that previous iterations of leadership had.
Here is a question I asked about it and some links to that discussion back in the day. Just search for 2034 on here for more links.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5139187116802048/what-happened-2034
* I remember reading a 1990s WT or Awake! article suggesting that Noah took fifty or so years to build the ark. I had already thought that they might give themselves some breathing space by using your above calculation. I refused to publish that idea on forums like this because I didn't want to give the Bethel monitors of such sites any ideas. In the early 2000s Bethel seems to have discovered it and ran with it.
https://youtu.be/ze4q_7_-uo4?si=l0xe0drc5a9urhyt.
so there was a time the awake magazine was printed every 15 days but now since jehovah is blessing them so much the magazine is printed once a year, and here you have the 1st edition for the year , which is nothing more than an informatial of how good of a charity they are to their local community.
so we read in the following box: what we are doing firstly, jehovah’s witnesses promote a balanced, healthy lifestyle.
"If that happens,,,then I guess the post-secondary education of jws kids is in serious jeopardy.
"Since the magazines are equivalent to a university education."
As someone who is interested in the dissemination of real information, I can't help but mourn the lost opportunity that Awake! represents. What could it have been, if it hadn't been a part of the WT's propaganda arm?
BTW, I'll never forgive them for the 1990s article bragging about how many children died for their blood policy. 😡
all this political banter is exhausting, so i want to ask a question that has probably been asked before, so here it goes….
let’s try to keep this non-partisan - just give your opinion and why you think that way.. i’ll go first.
i think jws would generally lean to the right, but not by a whole lot.
It's arguably compulsory here, but I think you can get an exemption on religious grounds from the AEC (Australian Electoral Commission). The penalty is a small fine; I've never known anyone who's paid it. People usually don't vote because they forget. We've got local council elections this Saturday here in NSW. They're compulsory too.
i have seen many movies or shows that make a passing reference to jehovah's witnesses but very few dwell on jws.
some like a deadly devotion episode i saw once tells a true story but the portal of jws is all wrong.
by movies i am not talking of documentaries.
"Hey, I got a title for a movie about the GB "The Dumbass 8" Lol."
Now that, I'd go and see!
Although it's 9 now. Is that the sequel? 🤔
the hospital liaison committee (hlc) for jehovah’s witnesses does not pressure members to refuse blood transfusions.
rather, their role is to support jehovah’s witnesses in adhering to their pre-existing religious beliefs, which include a strict prohibition against accepting blood transfusions based on their interpretation of biblical scriptures.. jehovah’s witnesses are well-informed about their stance on blood from an early age, and refusing blood is a deeply ingrained religious conviction, not something imposed during a medical crisis.
the hlc’s purpose is to provide assistance in accessing bloodless treatment options, facilitating communication with healthcare providers, and helping ensure that the patient’s choices are respected.. while the hlc strongly supports adherence to the beliefs of jehovah’s witnesses, the ultimate decision remains with the individual.
"I’ll bet they got in serious trouble for that shit, their lawyers advised them that they were gonna lose badly if they pressed the issue in court, and their charity status was threatened if they didn’t back the fuck off."
It's probably in the heyday of those kinds of shenanigans that first got governments to seriously begin looking at the WT and the way it treats its people. Agitating in the name of pacifism is one thing, but bragging about the kids who've died in obedience to their doctrine* is a whole 'nother ballgame. Doctors having to wake judges up in the middle of the night to get a court order to have a child transfused became such a meme that there's even a Jack Chick comic about it. The GB probably began to feel uncomfortable about the amount of pushback they were receiving** and have gradually been quietening and watering down their stance.
* In a 1990s Awake!
** Kids dying who might have otherwise been saved isn't as glamorous as them sending their young men to prison over Vietnam.
