Many people have really affected positively by the communal comments found on this board. Some have the dignity and respect to give formal goodbyes to this great group of people.
BreathoftheIndianNose
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Why do folks feel it necessary to announce their departure from this board?
by SadElder ini don't post often, and rarely start topics.
but, i've often wondered why folks feel the need to post their departure from this board.
they're free to leave or fade, etc.
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More on Brother Horton's and other coffee stops.
by BreathoftheIndianNose inobviously here in canada, the go to coffee stop is tim horton's, for the most part that is.
but what about in other countries, where did/do you all go for coffee breaks when needing a way to somewhat enjoy your service time?.
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BreathoftheIndianNose
Obviously here in Canada, the go to coffee stop is Tim Horton's, for the most part that is. But what about in other countries, where did/do you all go for coffee breaks when needing a way to somewhat enjoy your service time?
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DEATH and Jehovah's Witnesses
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BreathoftheIndianNose
That's right KS. The only thing we can rationally believe is that nothing happens. The brain decays, thus thought and consciousness cease to exist.
As for near death experiences, the brain is a powerful imaging computer, in a sense. Even if a person sees something when near or at a state of clinical death, it doesn't nessisarily represent reality no matter how strong or believable. I had a powerful dream last night that I thought to be absolute reality, even when I awoke, for a minute or two I still had problems coming to grips with the fact that it was not reality, but rather, just a dream. It was so real.
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DEATH and Jehovah's Witnesses
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BreathoftheIndianNose
Any person claiming to know better than any other person on this earth, the events that transpire after death, is a person dictating in a territory to which they have no jurisdiction at all.
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need your advice again, please
by outsmartthesystem inso here's the latest in my pathetic saga.
i've tried to fly under the radar for the past year, but it isn't working so well.
i've learned not to engage my wife in debates but rather to ask questions.
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BreathoftheIndianNose
Tuff situation man, I hope it works out the best way that it can. It's so dangerous bringing your questions to the elders. It all depends what kind of people they are. Theres a high chance that they will see your questions as hazardous and view you as a threat that must be eliminated. Obviously you eventually want out, but it could be humiliating and scaring for you. And if your wife is present during the meeting, it could be disastrous for the relationship. It's hard to say what will happen, but if you expect people to be reasonable, you will most likely be surprised by the blaintant lack of reason used by witnesses.
All the best.
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think i'm becoming an atheist
by rather be in hades ini was just thinking about how often i prayed when i was going downhill.. now i subscribed wholeheartedly to the 'don't pray for bullshit requests' concept, so at first i rarely prayed.. starting around middle school, 9/10 i prayed for friends.
didn't really pray to stop the teasing, my fists did some of that and besides...racism isn't/wasn't jehovah's fault anyway and i can't pray for that to end when he allowed the witnesses to suffer in ww2.. through high school, same issue and then when i started pioneering and hanging out with some of the other witnesses, those prayers prayers for friends intensified cuz they were asses.. but they were dominated by the prayers to love god starting around 15. i didn't want to read the magazines, despite how much i love reading.
didn't want to stdy the lessons, didn't want to plan my presentations, though i did enjoy giving the talks and crafting them.
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What scripture bothered your concious?
by stillhurts ini have been out 3 years.
i was baptized, never df'd.
ignored the 2 or 3 phone calls from the elders, and then they left me alone.
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My beginning to question watchtower doctrin came as a result of my studies of the bible from a scientific viewpoint. Basically the entirety of Genesis came up wanting, along with a large amount of scriptures in the Bible. But the things that stuck with me the most, were issues of morality. I never knew whether to laugh, cry or barf when I would read 1 Sam 18 espesially vs. 23-29. How a man like David could be supported by a God who is love, just doesn't make sense. But there are a wide array of scriptures that are crazy in different ways.
Also, welcome!
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You might think that I am a pervert this time, I do not care.
by Iamallcool inhttp://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olympics-fourth-place-medal/michelle-jenneke-australian-hurdler-dancing-sensation-042218109--oly.html.
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BreathoftheIndianNose
Sexy thighs of thunder.
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Shunning is easy
by Paralipomenon inupon reflection over the past 5 years of being out, i've had a lot of time to consider my time as a witness as well as come to terms with my parents shunning us.. that was the biggest shock for me.
contrary to most experiences i've read, my childhood, while focused on witness matters was still pretty happy.
our family always seemed to fall on "family first, religion second".
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BreathoftheIndianNose
I agree it takes less action than most of the other requirements posed by the Watchtower, but it can still be difficult physically when brought in close proximity. If a JW mother, for example, sees her ex-jw daughter at a mall, she would have to walk away from the sittuation, not the other way around. However, it fails in comparison to the psychological difficulties. If the poster IS talking about it in a physical sense as opposed to a psychological one, then yes i agree. Shunning is much easier than the other requirements which involve action. Thanks Jeffro
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Shunning is easy
by Paralipomenon inupon reflection over the past 5 years of being out, i've had a lot of time to consider my time as a witness as well as come to terms with my parents shunning us.. that was the biggest shock for me.
contrary to most experiences i've read, my childhood, while focused on witness matters was still pretty happy.
our family always seemed to fall on "family first, religion second".
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BreathoftheIndianNose
You really think its easy for parents, grandparents, siblings, and close friends to shun a loved one? Sorry but I have to disagree. To go against such a strong desire, need even, to show unconditional love to a daughter, son, grand-daughter, grand-son, sister, or brother, is certainly a painfully difficult thing. Its unnatural to shun a loved one. I say that it's, most likely, hell for the family members engaging in the shunning. The only thing that allows them to do this and override their strong desire for closeness to relatives, is the thought that is serving a better purpose, for all parties involved.