Pubsinger , The paragraph is read BEFORE the question now? How lame is that?
I've been left 8 years and it certainly wasn't new.
Must be 20 years . . . anyone else?
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Sheep, other sheep, other other sheep, Three classes of sheep?
by garybuss ini got this message from a forum member.. i think you may be confusing the wts' understanding of the "sheep" of matthew chapter 25 (who have not yet been separated from the "goats") and the "other sheep" of john chapter 10. the two groups are not (i.e.
no longer) considered synonymous.. .
what am i missing?
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The GB is a cloaking device for the FDS
by cultswatter ini spent my first 25 years in the jws and could never figure out who the fds was.
today it was bugging me - why can't i relate to the fds even though i now know it is nonsense, but even more important, why can't jws understand who the fds really is?.
let's look at some facts.
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FDS = NGO
Can't get my head round that.
As I see it GB = FDS
Anointed JW = Just another publisher
Non anointed member of GB = FDS
Anointed JW challenges Non Anointed GB member = 1 spare place on 144000
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The Underbelly is exposed...........
by AK - Jeff inwhat proactive things have you done [or intend to do] to warn others about the cult you have escaped?
the unfortunate fact of life is that we tend to look only at our own personal benefits from leaving the cult if not careful.
or we give up after a failed attempt.
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Funnily enough I've been invited to give my testimony of leaving the JWs at a housegroup of a neighbouring church (what? . . .Christendoms churches have housegroups)
But I said I'd rather talk about things they could say to the JW on their doorstep.
They thought that wasa great idea
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After reading many topics.. I'm confused. Is this a JW forum or an ANTI-JW?
by MichaelM ini'm studying with a jehovah's witness and it makes quite a bit of sense but i've been reading many topics on here and it seems that i can find every christian denomination and every religion except jehovahs witnesses.
do any jw's actually browse here?
maybe i'm just getting unlucky and picking the wrong topics where everyones discussing about how they used to be jw's.
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Of course if an ex-jw DID hate jws (in reality it would more likely be the WT organisation) that wouldn't mean that everything the ex-jw said was wrong.
The two things are unconnected. Hate/dislike of WT/JWs and ex-JWs spreading false information about WT.
It's this sort of flawed reasoning that MichaelM needs to look for.
And he'll soon see that very little comes from this board.
We deal mostly in facts.
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After reading many topics.. I'm confused. Is this a JW forum or an ANTI-JW?
by MichaelM ini'm studying with a jehovah's witness and it makes quite a bit of sense but i've been reading many topics on here and it seems that i can find every christian denomination and every religion except jehovahs witnesses.
do any jw's actually browse here?
maybe i'm just getting unlucky and picking the wrong topics where everyones discussing about how they used to be jw's.
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be very careful of the hatred of JWs here and other similar sites... a quick search of posts will reveal this. Also be careful of some JWs tendency to blindly accept teachings. But that doesnt mean it isnt the truth.
while i would agree that hatred of JWs is wrong, keep your wits about you.
Just because a group is hated by some, doesn't mean that they are right - you may find that they try to say that any persecution PROVES they are the true religion - which is very poor reasoning.
Neither of the two points mentioned here are helpful in decerning truth. However if you focus on either of these you will find your focus shifted in your search for truth.
You'll get quite good at spotting red herrings.
You will find tho that JWs are actually ADVISED to HATE people who leave the organisation having uncovered information about it.
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Cali - Pornea?
by Open mind inanyone from the u.s. ever hear california referred to as "cali-pornea"?
whether you're from cali or not, was it your impression that california jws had a reputation as being more "worldly" than dubs from other states?
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Chilli Peppers didn't call their album Californication for nothing then
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Cant get nobody to give the sunday talk
by darth frosty ini was just talking to a friend of mine who is the talk coordinator at his hall.
he was telling me that he cant get brothers to come and give talks at his hall.
i remember when i was giving talks that was all the rage.
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Now I understand that these people are trying to have actual balance. Not the
balance that WTS means- seek the kingdom first and foremost, do more, more, more.
They believe the doctrine, like I once did, but they don't act like they are going to
displease Jehovah if they don't do more, more, more. It's not the bottom of the
barrel, it's less warped.I agree with that. Some actually are getting wise to this.
In my church, the leadership are constantly telling those with lots of gifts, talents and abilities that they want to offer, to take care of themselves and not try to do/be involved in everything.
When trying to make sure people don't become unbalanced with their perspective they always remind everyone "God first, family second (not in a neglected way), THEN church responsibilities.
It feels so much better than WTs approach on "reaching out"
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Sheep, other sheep, other other sheep, Three classes of sheep?
by garybuss ini got this message from a forum member.. i think you may be confusing the wts' understanding of the "sheep" of matthew chapter 25 (who have not yet been separated from the "goats") and the "other sheep" of john chapter 10. the two groups are not (i.e.
no longer) considered synonymous.. .
what am i missing?
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Always wondered why we had to prepare ahead, it's so easy to find the 'answers', then everyone pats themselves on the back on how they've 'made the truth their own' and 'oh how I've learned'.
I NEVER used to prepare for meetings/WT studies etc
What was the point? You could find the answers and get the points in seconds - when the paragraphs were being read!
They even changed that 20 years ago if you remember. They used to ask the questions, take the answers and THEN read the paragraph in summary.
Once they changed it around and read the paragraph FIRST there was definitely no point pre-studying.
Did they think we were morons . . .
. . .we weren't were we . . .
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After reading many topics.. I'm confused. Is this a JW forum or an ANTI-JW?
by MichaelM ini'm studying with a jehovah's witness and it makes quite a bit of sense but i've been reading many topics on here and it seems that i can find every christian denomination and every religion except jehovahs witnesses.
do any jw's actually browse here?
maybe i'm just getting unlucky and picking the wrong topics where everyones discussing about how they used to be jw's.
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We don't always agree on what's true. But we do agree on what isn't. That's a good place to start.
So true.
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After reading many topics.. I'm confused. Is this a JW forum or an ANTI-JW?
by MichaelM ini'm studying with a jehovah's witness and it makes quite a bit of sense but i've been reading many topics on here and it seems that i can find every christian denomination and every religion except jehovahs witnesses.
do any jw's actually browse here?
maybe i'm just getting unlucky and picking the wrong topics where everyones discussing about how they used to be jw's.
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There are things the Witnesses have gotten right (No trinity, no hell fire).
As Michael is obviously new to Bible study I think he should be encouraged to come to his own conclusions.
And be allowed to see all the different perspectives.
The above is purely your own opinion (to which you are perfectly entitled) but you know that many here do not agree with you.
Lets not be guilty of the same mistakes as the WT