okay everybody, grab your barf bag because i just got a steaming shovel full of craptastic notes from gerrit's zone visit to the land down under !!.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ read at your own risk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~puke.
zone overseer was losch and his side kick was a big black guy, quite a scolar, cant remember his name though.
Even selling their belongings and moving somewhere would be too much for most of them, and the older members would vividly remember pre-1975 if that was to happen.
I wish they would say something this stupid . . .
Esp if they suggested giving the money to the society.
The one thing that would have them leaving en masse would be to suggest this. I'd be all over in a month.
does anyone wish to compare and tell us how the watchtower society can maintain two conflicting doctrines at the same time?.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/153373/2804581/post.ashx#2804581.
january 15, 2008 watchtower magazine.
I KNEW someone was going to say that!
I was going to clarify that many believe that the 144000 are indeed literal Jews so therefore it is a literal number.
So are you saying that only 144000 go to heaven - just not 144000 JWs?
does anyone wish to compare and tell us how the watchtower society can maintain two conflicting doctrines at the same time?.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/153373/2804581/post.ashx#2804581.
january 15, 2008 watchtower magazine.
I just posted my opinions on this in another thread!
I think that they COUNT on their members not REALISING that they hold contradictory interpretations.
I think that within the next 10 years WT will have "New Light" that the 144000 is actually a "symbolic" number
Problem solved . . .
Eventually they'll gravitate towards mainstream Christian doctrine.
JW teaching in 30 years time:
Christ will return and restore earth to paradise.
Human life will always continue and originate from earth.
Eternal life was not meant to be earthly
Little flock was Jewish believers
Other sheep are gentile believers
At death the hope is heavenly.
144000 (long forgotten) is not literal.
Mainstream Christian belief in thirty years:See Above
Somehow they'll still teach they are God's Exclusive Channel
january 15, 2008 watchtower, page 23 paragraph 16. it seems, however, that not all who have been called to a heavenly hope since the 1930's are replacements for ones who have fallen away.
jehovah has evidently made sure that we will have anointed christians amoung us all through the final days of this system of things until the destruction of "babylon the great.
" (rev.
I think that within the next 10 years WT will have "New Light" that the 144000 is actually a "symbolic" number
Problem solved . . .
Eventually they'll gravitate towards mainstream Christian doctrine.
JW teaching in 30 years time:
Christ will return and restore earth to paradise.
Human life will always continue and originate from earth.
Eternal life was not meant to be earthly
Little flock was Jewish believers
Other sheep are gentile believers
At death the hope is heavenly.
144000 (long forgotten) is not literal.
Mainstream Christian belief in thirty years:
See Above
Somehow they'll still teach they are God's Exclusive Channel
sorry to saratonin wrath for his thread being hijacked.
real one ... please provide the evidence that you said was out there on this thread here to avoid further hijacking of the other thread.. insults towards non-believers are also better suited to this thread then the other one as well.. kwin.
Hi Momz!
It's tomorrow - Feb 20th
Suppose it depends where you are in the world and what time it is.
5.12pm here - a few hours to go.
Happy "first" yourself
my daughter goes to a school where one of the office personel is a jw.
my hubby is df'd i haven't been to a meeting in 3 years.
when we go into the office and have to talk to her she directs all of her responses to me even if my husband is the one that asked the question.. once my husband went in there with my daughter and this person didn't direct her answers to my husband who asked the question, but to my daughter who was just tagging along.. this is stupid.
Report the incident directly to the Headteacher.
Complain on the grounds of "religious discrimination"
Say that she refuses to talk to you on "religious grounds"
When questioned she'll have to admit or lie.
I'd put your complaint in writing.
If you don't get any joy write to the Governors.
sorry to saratonin wrath for his thread being hijacked.
real one ... please provide the evidence that you said was out there on this thread here to avoid further hijacking of the other thread.. insults towards non-believers are also better suited to this thread then the other one as well.. kwin.
Seriously guys, why are you (we) bothering?
I'm a Christian but I won't engage any further . . .
And there i was wondering what to preach at church last Sunday . . .
Church goers usually have more kids anyway, the religiously minded generally have bigger families
If you didn't have a cool Morrisey avatar I'd have said this was twaddle
sorry to saratonin wrath for his thread being hijacked.
real one ... please provide the evidence that you said was out there on this thread here to avoid further hijacking of the other thread.. insults towards non-believers are also better suited to this thread then the other one as well.. kwin.
It means someone who is here just to deliberately wind everyone up without a real point. It's not an insult.
Usually it's someone who's a JW (in the context of this forum) but it doesn't have to be.
Your arguements are very poor - embarrassing actually. They do make you look like a troll.
You maybe totally sincere. You maybe right. But you ARE out of your league in the debating stakes.
That's not meant to be an insult.
Your giftings do not lie in debating or evangelising.
I hope they lie elsewhere.
it would be great wouldn't it?
if there was a room at the back of the hall that had a bar with a selection a fine handpulled ales & spirits.
the lights were lowered slightly, and some background tunes (not kingdom melodies) were playing, and there were some nice cosy chairs to lounge in.. after the meeting you could and have a few pints and have a laugh about how boring crap someones talk was.
I suggest Barnsley Congregation be the first to get one
