Posts by teenyuck

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Someone is hurting

by donkey in

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i am writing this thread because i hope it fosters some positive communication although i may end up being deleted for it.. to start with a discliamer: i am no fan of stinkypantz posts - they just aren't that interesting to me.. that being said i now see sp was deleted.

my first reaction to that was anger.

sp posted stuff about being close to a nervous breakdown, wishing she could just "disappear" etc....she is obviously someone in pain right now.. we have been constantly censured about how this is a place of healing and we need to keep it that way for people who need healing, support and comfort.. so i only hope sp has been "temporarily suspended" (not deleted) for her own good and no because she pissed off some moderator.

teenyuck

I guess I wasn't very clear...I totally agree that this is the whole idea behind a DB, obviously....

If I, or anyone else, can help someone like then I want to. Is that a substitute? No, I'm trying to give something back to people that have helped me. But I do think it is unfair to characterize this board as trying to substitute for therapy. Is it wrong to be kind, or empathetic? If I listen to someone pour out their troubles, does that mean I am trying to take the place of a psychologist? I'm sorry but I have to respectfully disagree with this idea

I think in the end, there is not enough encouragement to see a psychologist/psychiatrist here. I don't know if it is a JW thing, however, I cannot recall seeing this idea pushed very much. And there are some *off the wall* people here. People talk about seeing the doctor and getting Prozac for the depression, however, the overall impression I personally get is that *we* are afraid to tell people to just go see a therapist. Someone who can delve into the whys of certain behaviors; not just the symptoms and give you a pill to make the symptoms go away for a little while. I hope that makes sense.

Maybe it is not politically correct. I really don't know. Sometimes all someone wants to do is vent. If they have been on the board and you know them, sometimes you can tell. However, sometimes you cannot. Frankly, I would like to tell everyone to go see a therapist. How much could it hurt? At the very least you might find out who your inner rock star is and what you really wanted to do in life!

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Someone is hurting

by donkey in

jw
friends

i am writing this thread because i hope it fosters some positive communication although i may end up being deleted for it.. to start with a discliamer: i am no fan of stinkypantz posts - they just aren't that interesting to me.. that being said i now see sp was deleted.

my first reaction to that was anger.

sp posted stuff about being close to a nervous breakdown, wishing she could just "disappear" etc....she is obviously someone in pain right now.. we have been constantly censured about how this is a place of healing and we need to keep it that way for people who need healing, support and comfort.. so i only hope sp has been "temporarily suspended" (not deleted) for her own good and no because she pissed off some moderator.

teenyuck

{{{Bridget}}}

Anyone suffering from depression and/or any type of health issues needs medical attention from trained professionals.

Too many times people come on this board and ask for advice and/or look for help....too many times they are given home remedies etc and told to just *talk* about it. That doesn't really work on a DB does it? It works for getting information on 1975 and on Fred Franz, but not quite on how to get over the emotional pain of being raised in a cult.

Bridget was advised to see a doctor and/or professional *over there*...after getting a few cyber hugs.

HS said:

To any suffering depression and struggling with deep emotional issues, please learn that these Boards are not here as a substitute for needed help and therapy. As a matter of fact they could seriously add to your problems.

That needs to be reiterated to every poster and should be a disclaimer on this type of board. While many people come here for healing, many do come with emotional issues that only a professional could hope to help heal.

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Why I believe life has a purpose -- Part I

by logansrun in

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guiding my way out of an archaic, myopic and, at times, destructive belief system like the jehovah's witnesses was not an easy thing to do.

in fact, it was hell.

my journey left in it's wake an existential angst and an intellectual and emotional vacuum.

teenyuck

Ok, if you say so...

1) Faith (belief) is essential to conscius, reflexive beings (humanity)

You could have said it in that one simple sentence.....sheesh!

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I met Logansrun and Amazing Yesterday....

by teenyuck in

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yesterday i was in chicago on a business trip with my husband.

we flew into chicago wednesday night and left yesterday afternoon.

yesterday, for lunch, i got to hook up with logansrun and amazing.

teenyuck

Perhaps *hookup* was not the best word.....

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I met Logansrun and Amazing Yesterday....

by teenyuck in

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yesterday i was in chicago on a business trip with my husband.

we flew into chicago wednesday night and left yesterday afternoon.

yesterday, for lunch, i got to hook up with logansrun and amazing.

teenyuck

Yesterday I was in Chicago on a business trip with my husband. We flew into Chicago Wednesday night and left yesterday afternoon. Yesterday, for lunch, I got to hook up with Logansrun and Amazing.

What great guys!!

I had met Logan previously, this past summer, when he was down in Ohio. Yesterday was the first time meeting Amazing.

We met at a great Mexican restaurant called Chevy's and, unfortunately, due to my having to drive back to the hotel and board a plane, I did not have a margarita.....

We only had a little over an hour an a half, but it was great. Talking about who we knew in common in the Chicago area, etc.

We had a great visit and hopefully when I am in Chicago again we can spend more time and I can actually have a drink and we can relax and laugh more. Maybe my husband can meet them and see that Ex-JWs are normal (like Moi) and just want to have fun.

It is so great to meet people that you feel you kinda know, based upon their comments and experiences on the board. I hope to meet more and more posters. It creates such a great bond.

Thanks for a great visit guys! It made my trip worth it! Especially after seeing all those Watchtowers and Awakes! at my mom's house!

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No internet after this weekend

by pamkw in

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just wanted to let you know after monday, i will not have internet for awhile.

since i lost my short lived job, i just can't afford it.

i can't afford anything right now.

teenyuck

{{{Pam}}}

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Armageddon's not coming / The Cubs aren't going to the World Series...

by logansrun in

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...my life's been one pipe dream after another.. shocked, yet.............not.. bradley from chicago

teenyuck

Chicago still has football right?
Uh, no. Chicago has the Bears.

That was cold.....

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Freaking savages--Muslim Women Killed in the West

by ashitaka in

horrible.

muslim women killed in the west.

in the middle east, muslim are women are killed for disobedience, becoming too ?westernized?

teenyuck

{{{frenchbabyface}}}

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Freaking savages--Muslim Women Killed in the West

by ashitaka in

horrible.

muslim women killed in the west.

in the middle east, muslim are women are killed for disobedience, becoming too ?westernized?

teenyuck

Thank you for your concern for her and I.

She is good. Now.

When I got back to school from spring break I called my mom and told her I was going to be home on May 4th. My last day of class was May 3 and I was moving back May 4th. I told her I would *take care* of Zaia.

I told her I would get him in the middle of the night. All she had to do was leave the room....I was going to tell the police he tried to rape me. I was going to hurt him as he had hurt her. I told her I would cut his penis off and shove it down his throat.

My mother was begging me to stop and telling me to not do it. I said fine....I would not. However, I had friends who would take care of him. And I did. I hung around with a group of worldly guys who were Latinos....all of them were in gangs....in Chicago. They were drug dealers and into all kinds of illegal stuff. I went to HS with them and did not realize the illegal stuff they were into until I went away to college and my boyfriend (a Latino) told me what they were into. I told my mom I would put a hit on Zaia and my friends would carry it out. All I had to do was pay them and Zaia would disappear forever.

Zaia had the telephones bugged. Seriously. Which I knew. My mom had told me while I was at home. He was also afraid my mom would have an affair on him. My good JW mother would Never have an affair. She was terrified of him and was not even going to the meetings because she was so black and blue from the numerous beatings he gave her. She could not let the people at the KH see her because she was embarassed she married a worldly and they would blame her for getting what she deserved.

Between spring break and moving home on May 4th, I called home every few weeks, I would repeat what I was going to do to Zaia when I got home. My mom would beg me not to because I would go to jail. I said I didn't care.

I moved home on May 4th. Zaia moved out the evening of May 3rd. I never saw him again. He and my mom were divorced and he did not contest anything. Luckily he got nothing from her. She had money and property.

He did become a US citizen from the marriage however.

My mom got counseling from an abused womens shelter. I did also. It was very helpful....it was empowering to learn why she, and I, had put up with abusive behaviour from men in the past.

She has never gotten remarried.

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Freaking savages--Muslim Women Killed in the West

by ashitaka in

horrible.

muslim women killed in the west.

in the middle east, muslim are women are killed for disobedience, becoming too ?westernized?

teenyuck

Please get off the death penalty topic here. Get back on topic.....

My mother was married to an Iraqi.

He beat her senseless for no reason. No reason. Do you understand? No reason.

He liked beating women. That is how he was raised....IN IRAQ. Fine muslim values he learned.....

He learned that women are worthless. They are only good for cooking, cleaning and procreating. When he realized that the 10 year age difference WAS going to make a difference and she was not going to procreate and give him a little Zaia (his name) he started beating her. Severely.

I was away at college. When I came home at spring break and saw my mother Severely Beaten I had to offer him the same thing. Get beaten or get killed.

When men are taught from an early age that women are worthless, they treat women as worthless.

If I ever had the opportunity to go back in time I would make good on my promise to Zaia. I would cut off his penis in the middle of the night, shove it down is miserable throat and beat him to death for what he did to my mother. He put her unimaginable pain and suffering for two years. She hid it well from me.....

He would have killed her if I had not intervened.