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  JW.ORG REPORTS THE WATCHTOWER RESPONSE TO EBOLA

  by NAVYTOWN in

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  i just checked the jw.org website and noticed an article about the jw response to ebola.

  as i suspected, the entire focus was on alerting and educating jw members about ebola.just like in other disaster situations, the jw organization almost exclusively assists it's own members, ignoring the general public.

  it seems their main concern is keeping their members healthy so they can continue to spread the jw message door to door!!!

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  leaving_quietly

  @ecan6, I wholeheartedly agree with you from that perspective.
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  One Day assembly in Arizona- $17,000 !!

  by AndDontCallMeShirley in

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  i heard from a reliable source that a one-day assembly in arizona last weekend had a "cost" to the publishers of $17,000.. predictably, the elders were nice enough to obligate the attendees to a $6,000 donation to wt before the assembly "costs" (i.e.

  "rent/extortion) were even met.

  $11,000 rent plus $6000 in extra "donations".

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  leaving_quietly

  Ours was $9000 a few weeks back. $17,000 is more than the cost of a typical two-day! How much toilet paper and soap do you people go through???

  Seriously, though, even $9000 is way high. I think we have a right to ask where all that money is going.

  For our assembly hall, we suddenly have extremely manicured grounds with placards describing the types of flowers in each different area. Why in the world do we need that? It's outrageous.
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  JW.ORG REPORTS THE WATCHTOWER RESPONSE TO EBOLA

  by NAVYTOWN in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just checked the jw.org website and noticed an article about the jw response to ebola.

  as i suspected, the entire focus was on alerting and educating jw members about ebola.just like in other disaster situations, the jw organization almost exclusively assists it's own members, ignoring the general public.

  it seems their main concern is keeping their members healthy so they can continue to spread the jw message door to door!!!

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  leaving_quietly

  We may fault the WTBTS for many things, but this shouldn't be one of them. At least they gave some direction for safety reasons. If you didn't read the article, for the picture a little farther down, the caption reads:

  As a precaution, a Witness family cooperates with an area quarantine in Dolo’s Town, a community east of Monrovia, Liberia. The quarantine was lifted on September 8, 2014

  So, for anyone saying they're encouraging D2D and meetings, that isn't exactly true. Seems like they're asking for cooperation with whatever the government says in this matter. Let's not paint WTBTS as being bad in this case. It's not like WTBTS has any more experience with how to handle with Ebola than anyone else.

  Now, how much you believe of this article is up to you, but this part was noteworthy:

  In Sierra Leone, an announcement aired on a local radio station outlining how Jehovah’s Witnesses helped their members and non-Witnesses in the community to avoid the Ebola virus.

  So, fault them for what you want. In this case, I cannot.
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  Growth From jw.org?

  by EmptyInside in

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  2. bible

  well,according to my mother,lots of bible studies and newly interested ones because of the promotion of the website.

  it is just growing,lol.. i have no clue.

  it's funny their spin on things.

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  leaving_quietly

  Just because there's bible studies and newly interested ones doesn't mean there's growth. Growth can only be counted when the number of baptisms rises. In other words, when people actually get converted. It may, and probably will happen to some degree. I've seen plenty of bible studies and newly interested ones attend the KH for a few weeks, then disappear. That's not growth.
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  Do not store up treasures on earth

  by runForever in

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  i had a thought about this scripture: "do not store up for yourselfs treasures on earth where moth and rust destroy,.

  and thieves break in and steal".

  it really seems to fit storing up treasures in the jehovah's witnesses organization.

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  Did you feel good , important, make friends, meet your mate, during your years as pioneer, worker? That IS your reward.

  As soon as I read this, the passage below immediately came to mind.

  Take care not to practice your righteousness in front of men to be noticed by them; otherwise you will have no reward with your Father who is in the heavens. So when you make gifts of mercy, do not blow a trumpet ahead of you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, so that they may be glorified by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. - Matt 6:1,2
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  New December KM with changes all over

  by pixel in

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  is not on the public website yet, but here it is, full more changes:.

  to the 2015 school:.

  bible highlights: brothers as- signed this part will have two min- utes to consider one interesting and practical scriptural point from the weekly bible reading.

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  That #3 talk is essentially a "demo" every week. I vehemently hate doing demos. I have no problem giving talks, but please, not demos. I think I will take myself off the school finally.
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  help me understand: if jesus started ruling in 1914 does that mean we are in the 1000 year reign

  by goingthruthemotions in

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  No. While the WTBTS loves to say "Christ's Millenial Reign", this isn't actually the case. The 1000 years applies to the length of time Satan is abyssed, which is the same length of time the those of the first resurrection rule WITH Christ.

  Rev 20:4: "And they came to life and ruled as kings with the Christ for 1,000 years"

  Note: this never says Christ's rule is 1,000 years. Only their rule with Christ. This could easily go into a discussion of when Christ became king: 1914? Or earlier? Plenty of verses allude to earlier.
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  AGM 2014 Detailed Highlights - including talks summary.

  by Da.Furious in

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  it is more likely to be one attack under different names.. gog of magog is not satan but a coalition of nations.

  1. what do talents represent?

  so who has the 5 talents?

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  It's amazing that the more they try, the more they fail. As pitzjw said, Gog and Magog don't come on the scene until AFTER the thousand years have ended.

  As for the 10 virgins, did they even bother to explain Matthew 25:9? "The discreet answered, saying: ‘Perhaps there may not be enough for both us and you. Go instead to those who sell it, and buy some for yourselves.’ " The "oil" isn't faithful service. You can't buy faithful service. Must be something else that they haven't figured out, yet.

  As for the 10 talents, this cannot represent the preaching work. Why not? Think about the one slave who buried his talent. The master told him that if he had at least deposited it in a bank so as to gain interest, then the master would have been happy. You can't put preaching in a bank, so to speak. This makes no sense.
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  WARNING - DON'T SIGN IN TO JW LANGUAGE APP

  by cultBgone in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  unless you are willing to have all your movements tracked on the internet and your files opened to the watchtower, don't sign in.

  here's what will happen:.

  to install the app - you will give the jw-app access to:.

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  I agree with paradisebeauty. If used in a small audience, such as a KH, someone might figure it out by sheer deduction. However, there's no way to know what IP address is matched up with what device. The only way that could happen is if they had some sort of Login protocol after IP assignment that logs your device name. And there would be no way for you to know that's happening. If, after you connect to a network, you get one of those Login pages that asks you to click Login to agree to the terms of use, then it's possible that your device name could be passed along. And you can bet that if they have a Login protocol, everything is logged at some level. But, if you just connect and have nothing further to do, then there's much less of a risk.
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  TV.JW.org - Purpose?

  by passwordprotected in

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  there's an interest point raised by stephen letts at around the 7 minute mark of the intro video;.

  much of the equipment used to build the studio was made available by donation.

  he twice mentions (once at the start of the video) the need for "support", which we can assume means donations.

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  leaving_quietly

  Good points in this thread. I had another thought:

  I smell another campaign coming on.