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  Greetings! From an Existent JW!

  by Ethos in

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  i'd like extend a greeting to all members of jwn.

  i've been a lurking by-stander of this forum for approximately 6 months.

  i think this forum's best moments can be attributed to the involvement of actual jw's in doctrinaire discussions and to heated (though not always dialectic) debates.

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  ethos,Welcome to JWN. The discussions should prove interesting. Because you are still in the borg, I will pretend that you are a member of my uber jw family and consider what you believe and why. As Loubelle stated, we have already considered these doctrines thoughly and they have been rejected.I recommend the book "The Gentile Times Reconsidered" by Carl Olof Jonsson. It's a heavy read but informative. There is also a site, I forgot how to get to it, but others here can direct you there, where you will find some great essays discussing wts doctrine. The only two names of those whose writing may be found there are Farkel and and Alan F, don't recall the last name but it's a long name. I have found that site to be excellent reading.

  PHG
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  I went a little NUTS!

  by irondork in

  1. jw
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  did you go a little nuts as you were waking up and making your exit?

  i had a few of the symptoms listed in hassan's, combatting cult mind control.

  i couldn't pull my thoughts together.

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  If you ain't been one, you can't begin to grasp it all.

  DOC, that is so true. That's why JWN is so important. We have all been there and understand why we get nuts and how difficult things can get.

  PHG.
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  American Elections - From an outsider

  by LouBelle in

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  i am not huge into politics but i follow the american elections and kind of keep my finger on it.

  i have my own strong views on sa politics.. i just want to applaud you, the american people for going about your elections in a very fair, democratic and peaceful manner.

  it certainly came across very polished and well run.

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  I grew up with images of fire hoses turned on children. De facto segration was alive in the South. Police dogs were turned on peaceful demonstrators. It gives me hope for my issues.

  BOTR, I grew up with the same images. I could not believe what I saw on tv. Those were such tumultuous times; from the images of young American men dying in the fields of Vietnam, the assassination of John and Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Malcom X, Medgar Evers, and the killing of the young men in Mississippi and those protestors at Kent State, it was almost too much to absorb. I witnessed these events from the vantage point of a small Texas town. The events were so surreal. When I was moving from Texas to the Southeast coast, my brother and I went through Selma and Birmingham, Alabama. As we went through those those cities, I remarked to my brother:"Do you realize we are in the heart of the battle for civil rights?" I almost wanted to stop and do homage to those brave souls who forced change on the US.I don't think I would want to have lived in any other age. This one has been wrought by so much turmoil, but good things have also been accomplished by some brave souls. I hope things will get better for all of us in the future.

  PHG
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  Asleep in a Wood

  by compound complex in

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  so weary i was from a walk in the woods .

  that i lay to rest at the foot of an alder tree,.

  finding sweet repose on a cool nest of leaves.. .

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  CoCo, your writing is intriguing. I like the way you ascribe personification to the air. I love to watch the moon and it's different phases so I enjoyed your use of the moon and stars.

  I can picture myself experiencing what you are writing.

  PHG
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  My heart sings ...

  by fulltimestudent in

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  i've felt pressured the last 2 days - i'm writing an essay i've titled, traditions in conflict, the persecution of catholics in nineteenth century choson (korea) - (depressing subject, eh?).

  the right words have not been flowing easily.

  one problem is (i think) that i accumulated too much material.

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  Fulltimestudent, What exactly are you studying and what type of degree are you pursuing. Sounds interesting.

  When I was in school, I went to see 30 Centuries of Mexician Art. The paintings and scuptures were touring the US. I was overwhelmed with the beauty of the art.

  I could not believe how large the painting were. You're right about the wonderful things that humans can accomplish.

  PHG
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  American Elections - From an outsider

  by LouBelle in

  1. jw
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  i am not huge into politics but i follow the american elections and kind of keep my finger on it.

  i have my own strong views on sa politics.. i just want to applaud you, the american people for going about your elections in a very fair, democratic and peaceful manner.

  it certainly came across very polished and well run.

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  Thank you, LouBelle for the compliment. We are proud to be Americans and of the way we conduct our elections. I did not vote for Obama, but he is our President and we have to support him and hope that he will do the best for all Americans. We agrue and debate but in the end we know we have to stick together for the sake of our country.

  PHG
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  I went a little NUTS!

  by irondork in

  1. jw
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  did you go a little nuts as you were waking up and making your exit?

  i had a few of the symptoms listed in hassan's, combatting cult mind control.

  i couldn't pull my thoughts together.

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  Feeling that you're going nuts is new normal after leaving the borg. Even a year or so after I left, on morning I awoke in a cold sweat thinking "What if they are right and they are God's only people!" I had to calm myself down by going over everything I had learned about them. It gets better. It's just difficult leaving something you put your trust into. It's a feeling of "What now?"

  PHG
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  I grew up not fearing old age

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
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  as a teenage jw, i grew up believing that i was not going to finish high school nor would i get old and have to die like my grandparents did.

  well, i did finish high school, as did my children and my grandchildren and old age has not been kind to me.

  i don't like to look at pictures from 40 years ago, from a time when i was healthy and i had the goal of "stay alive till 75.

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  itscrap&theyknowit, your comments make me so sad. Sad for your Dad and what he might have accomplished had it not been for this organization. We, and the world, have lost much that we could have contributed to society had it not been for this organization.My brother once commented that one of our jw friends could have been Lee Trevino, the iconic golfer. This boy was a caddy for all the well-off people where we lived and played golf every day; he became a great golfer, but all he ever did was do what the borg required of him. He never even thought about doing anything he wanted to do. I see such intelligent and creative people on this site that I know could have "been somebody" and contributed so much to the world at large had it not been for the constraints this organization placed on all of us. It justs makes me sick to think aout it. I hope all of you will follow your dreams and know that the sky is the limit for all of you; forget about what we used to think. We were lied to and now this life is all we have. I, myself, have done what I can to recapture what I lost and have been successful enough that I have never had to ask anyone for any help. I have inspired my children to get a college degree and do what they can to succeed in life, but I must confess that I am getting up in years and I am a little tired. Now, I just want to encourge those who breaking free from the borg and say: There is life after the borg. Be whatever you know you can be. Follow your dreams and don't look back. We got screwed by the borg, but we are free now. You have a life to live. Make the most of it.
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  My JC coming up tomorrow for causing division Rom 16:17,18 - wish me well!

  by Healthworker in

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  hi, brothers and friends!.

  would make me happy if you say a prayer or wish me good luck!.

  been an exciting day, training with you guys before the rumble in the jungle tomorrow!.

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  Healthworker, I will be thinking of you and wishing you well. Is it too late to fade? Losing everything and everybody you love is hard. Be strong, those elders probably don't know as much as you do. The ones that judged me didn't have half my knowledge of the borg than I did. One of them got df'd for adultery not long after he had a hand in disfellowshipping me. What a joke!

  PHG (another healthworker)
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  Ever just want to run away.

  by LouBelle in

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  just give up the job, the house and go somewhere where life moves at a slower pace and there are not as many electronic intrusions?

  only thing to get to a place like that costs money.. if i had my way, give all of this up for a quiet life on a little small holding that can look after my needs..

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  a little log cabin with a wood burning stove. Just grow veg and keep a few chickens.

  Ooooh yeah

  This is what I have, sans the chickens, I have dogs and a cat. My children keep trying to get me to give it up and move. So far, I have fought the idea off. I used to dream and plan running away but that was when I was married. Now I like my life. Of course, I could never give up my iPAD, internet, iphone, laptop, tv, or anything that helps me keep in touch. I panic when the power goes off. I have to keep in touch but on my terms, not anyone elses. I hope you can find peace, LouBelle. I think I might enjoy visiting with you and drinking a beer, although I usually drink wine. I have read a lot about SA, sounds like an interesting place, but it's far from the US.

  PHG