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Hubby accused me Apostasy today!

by Pureheart in

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my husband accused me of apostasy today!

when he came home from work i was talking to a friend on the telephone and he asked me what was i talking about.

i know that he thought that i was talking about the things that i learned about the misleading prophecies that the wt had printed.

Pureheart

Thanks everyone for your concern.
Yes he is active and believes that those folks are worshipping God in truth. He acknowledges that wrong things go on, but he believes that it is because of human imperfection, yada yada yada. He doesn’t think I am a submissive wife, because I do not tremble at them. One time he did get really mad at me and said under his breath, “of all the sisters that I could have married, I married you.” That hurt. But I said right back, “maybe you could have married one of those silly pioneer sisters that still are not married because other brothers have sense enough to know that they are pioneering because they are lazy, only working partime “in order to pioneer”. Or you could have married one of those sorry sisters whose husband left them when they came into the “truth”. Those men were just waiting for an excuse to get rid of those sorry things.”
He is so angry with me right now for not going to the kingdom hall. And when I do go he holds his breath when the brothers approach me because he think I will say something unkind. I told him that I am more intelligent than that. But if they ask me a nosy question I will simply say, “ask my head”. If they persist then I will say that it is none of your business with a look to kill. I told my husband that I do not need their permission or approval. I told him if he wants to be happy with a good and supportive wife he better be nice to me.
I give him little tidbits from time to time. Sometimes he let me talk a little more than other times. He knows that I am not lying.
I believe that he loves me. He provides well for me. I just can’t seem to get those rose colored glasses off that face of his. Any more suggestions?

Pureheart

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Hubby accused me Apostasy today!

by Pureheart in

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my husband accused me of apostasy today!

when he came home from work i was talking to a friend on the telephone and he asked me what was i talking about.

i know that he thought that i was talking about the things that i learned about the misleading prophecies that the wt had printed.

Pureheart

My husband accused me of Apostasy today! When he came home from work I was talking to a friend on the telephone and he asked me what was I talking about. I know that he thought that I was talking about the things that I learned about the misleading prophecies that the WT had printed. I reassured him that I was not. I could see that he wanted to discuss it a little more so I proceeded to say;

Pure………You know that when I read the early history of Russell its as if I am reading about Joseph Smith.
Hubby…….Starts laughing
Pure………. Did you know that 90% of the things that Russell taught are wrong?
Hubby……..How do you know that? Who is to say if he was wrong? He was printing what he felt to be right.
Pure……….. It doesn’t make it right just because he wanted it to be. You should not defend someone that was wrong. Defend the truth not a lie. He said that Jesus Christ presence began in 1874 and that Armageddon would take place in 1914. Did it happen? Rutherford comes right behind him and changed everything that he said. You know why? Because Russell was wrong.
Hubby………Smirking
Pure………..Then I looked at him and said, “wait a minute, maybe Russell was right and the “Boys” now are wrong. Maybe Jesus did begin his presence in 1874 and Armageddon did come in 1914. Maybe Rutherford was right in saying that Moses, David, and the older prophets would be resurrected in 1925. Maybe they are living in Afghanistan in the caves waiting for the right time to reveal themselves. Maybe one of them is President Bush and some are congressmen.
Hubby……..rolling his eyes……….starts laughing. You are just a little apostate. I hope that you are not saying these things to anyone. You know that if they find out at the Kingdom Hall they will hunt you down like a dog and disfellowship you?
Pure………..So who is lying? Russell, Rutherford, or the Boys at the WTS today. If I had to choose, of one that is telling the truth I would say Russell. (Sarcastically)
Hubby……..Walks out shaking his head.
Pure………..Laughing so hard that tears came to my eyes.
Hubby....Yells back to me over his shoulder.....you are corrupting me!
Pure.....Laughing even harder.

Pureheart

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Defeating The Watchtower - What Does This Mean?

by hillary_step in

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i actually wrote this post in response to a poster recently dealing with the 'defeating' of the wts.. i have started a new topic with the post as i would like to hear opinions of what xjw's and others view as a 'defeated' watchtower.. "i am not quite sure what we all want from the wts.

what does a person mean by 'defeating' the watchtower?.

destroying it, selling its buildings, giving the cash back to the people who bought them?

Pureheart

I am in full agreement with this satement by Sam Beli.

"Hillary, I think the over-all problem was well stated some time ago by Alan F. The central doctrine of JWs is that “the GB speaks for God.”
Real defeat, it seems to me, will come when the halos of the GB are markedly tarnished; when the R & F JW realizes that the GB does not speak for God. Getting to this point is very difficult.

Everything else will fall into place once that fact is realized by a significant number of JWs."

Also with ISP. "Wait it out".

It will most diffinetly be exposed!

Pureheart

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Another Example of Watchtower Lies EXPOSED

by Reborn2002 in

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i thought some of you may find this interesting.

it is so humorous to look into the watchtower bible and tract society's own literature and so blatantly see they change their mind and lie so frequently.. these are direct quotes from their own literature.

if you doubt my posting this, please check for yourself.. now to establish a precedence that the watchtower bible and tract society, the corporate religous entity which provides literature and oversees jehovah's witnesses worldwide, believes it is an inspired prophet, let us look at .

Pureheart

The reason that JWs continue to obey the "Faithful and Descreet Slave" is because they really believe that it is God's channel of communication to humans. So no matter what anyone says, they feel that if they do not obey the Slave they will incurr Gods disfavor. It has been instilled in them. Many of them see things going on that are not right, but are afraid to speak up for many other different reasons.
It will take exposure of the grandest kind to open their eyes to the real truth. When that happens and it most definitely will, the JWs will finaly see how mislead they are.
Like Jesus said, "you will know the truth and it will set you free."

Pureheart

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Screaming: "JEHOVAH!!!", at work.

by Amazing in

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in the early 1980s, i worked at bechtel corporation in san francisco.

i commuted 45 miles one way each day in heavy traffic, taking a total time of 11-12 hours per day from the time i left home until i arrived home from work.

in addition, i traveled a great deal for the company, spending many hours on airplanes.

Pureheart

Hahahahahah!

I also want to thank you for your researched information on Rutherfords trial. I perused it carefully. I realize that it took a lot of preparation. The WTS leave out so much information in their history. Its good when ones like yourself take the time to dig up the whole "truth". Thanks again. Your effort is greatly appreciated.

Pureheart

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JW Doctors can give Blood Transfusions.

by Pureheart in

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*** w64 11/15 682-3 employment and your conscience ***.

some doctors who are jehovahs witnesses have administered blood transfusions to persons of the world upon request.

however, they do not do so in the case of one of jehovahs dedicated witnesses.

Pureheart

Did you all know this?

*** w64 11/15 682-3 Employment and Your Conscience ***
Some doctors who are Jehovah’s witnesses have administered blood transfusions to persons of the world upon request. However, they do not do so in the case of one of Jehovah’s dedicated witnesses. In harmony with Deuteronomy 14:21, the administering of blood upon request to worldly persons is left to the Christian doctor’s own conscience. This is similar to the situation facing a Christian butcher or grocer who must decide whether he can conscientiously sell blood sausage to a worldly person.

(Deuteronomy 14:21) “YOU must not eat any body [already] dead. To the alien resident who is inside your gates you may give it, and he must eat it; or there may be a selling of it to a foreigner, because you are a holy people to Jehovah your God. “You must not boil a kid in its mother’s milk.

It's amazing what you can find when you go digging. hummmmmmmm Seems to me like a double standard.

Pureheart

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Watchtower Quotes for JW`s

by Beans in

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hello brothers and sisters and welcome to the board!!!

as we strive to serve jehovah it is important to remember what past issues have stated:that you should actively refer to the older publications.... wt jun 15 1985 p.12 .

i have found a great web site that has everything we need for our research!!!

Pureheart

Thankyou Beans!

Pureheart

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Damned Information!

by Pureheart in

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hello all.. been doing some research.

thought that i would share this tidbit with you.. *** jv 621 28 testing and sifting from within ***.

was god using a visible channel?.

Pureheart

Hello all.
Been doing some research. Thought that I would share this tidbit with you.

*** jv 621 28 Testing and Sifting From Within ***
Was God Using a Visible Channel?
There are, of course, many religious organizations, and a considerable number of teachers make some use of the Bible. Was God particularly using Charles Taze Russell? If so, did God cease to have a visible channel when Brother Russell died? These became critical issues, ones that led to further testing and sifting.
It certainly could not be expected that God would use C. T. Russell if he did not loyally adhere to God’s Word. (Jer. 23:28; 2 Tim. 3:16, 17) God would not use a man who fearfully refrained from preaching what he saw clearly written in the Scriptures. (Ezek. 2:6-8) Nor would God use a person who exploited his knowledge of the Scriptures to bring glory to himself. (John 5:44) So, what do the facts show?
As Jehovah’s Witnesses today review the work that he did, the things he taught, his reason for teaching them, and the outcome, they have no doubt that Charles Taze Russell was, indeed, used by God in a special way and at a significant time.

Only a freed mind can see through this “Damned” information that they write. The WTS is a witness against itself!

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Memorial talk outline link was too much for dubs?

by Haereticus in

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last night i posted watch tower observer link about the memorial talk outline onto a finnish forum.

by noon the thread had about dozen posts.

i just checked and found out that the thread was being removed.

Pureheart

Kent posted this on his forum.

Writing Articles for "The Watchtower" and "Awake!"
Chapter 24

1. WRITING DESKS: The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses has approved of setting up writing desks on a permanent basis in a number of the Society's branch offices.
to find additional individuals who are qualified to write and thus give greater diversity to the style of writing in our magazines, while also achieving a broader interest in our publications.
Those used as writers must be dedicated, baptized brothers or sisters in good standing with their local congregations and who have writing ability. They should be exemplary, modest, not inclined to talk loosely to others about their writing activity. Sisters may be found to be especially talented in writing articles of interest to women. However, they should not be used to prepare articles that are basically an exposition of Scripture.

I thought that the faithful and discreet slave was providing food at the proper time?

Pureheart

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Wt will Win case Before Supreme Court

by JT in

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i think the small time lawyer will be out gunned on this one- most small towns always end up passsing goofy laws like this one.

while i have no love for wt i do know a poorly written law when i see one exp when the mayor is walking around in affect saying: "ww want to keep you people out".

the boys in legal laugh when they see some elective dude say some off the cuff remark like that.

Pureheart

Hi JT,

I think that the town lawyers underestimated the power and control that the WT has. I think that they think that the humble looking JWs that run around their town are a reflection of the WTS, and would run at the first sign of a threat. Boy did they learn different. DON'T MESS WITH THE WTS. THEY WILL HURT SOMEBODY!!!!!!! And I mean that in the most literal way. Turn the other cheek, huh? Yeh right!!

Pureheart