Posts by blindnomore

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New girl in town here for support

by joyfulfader in

hi everyone here on jwn.

i admit to being a lurker for quite some time before joining and now i am ready to post and i want to introduce myself.

i am/was 3rd generation and daughter of the po (as it was termed at the time) for most of my life.

blindnomore

Joyfulfader, Welcome and Sorry you are suffering with PTSD. What traumatic experiences so many of us had gone through by the Watchtower Organization! You are safe here. Make yourself home and stay as long as you would like to. This is a good place to learning in taking your power back and you can be yourself without dread of being punished.

I've been on the forum for about 5 months and it has been the best therapy for me. It's so nice to be freed and living a real life again. No more fear, guilt, PTSD, ... Congrets on your jorney to renew life!

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Has anyone heard of "Secret Disfellowshipping" by Jehovah's Witnesses? Menlo Park Ca. Congregation. Update.

by Balaamsass in

no doubt everyone has been following the juan viejo postings regarding the watchtower kingdom hall "grab" on jwn for the last couple of years.

called the mrs and me to say "wow- you have to google this" we did...came here to jwn ...became members..and the rest is history.. in the last nine months i have been calling and emailing contacts in the silicon valley for verification on the societies theft and forced sale of the menlo park kingdom hall (near the new facebook heaquarters) because the story seemed...a little far fetched.

every reliable contact i made has confirmed what juan reported.

blindnomore

"Secret Marking and Secret Disfellowshipping"

What I have learned from my personal experience, Watchtower and its elders have the same mindset that of North Korean Dear Leader, Kim Jung Eun has. The Absolute Power with zero tolerance!

Until this very moment I have no idea what I got disfellowshipped for. I am not kidding. I was marked at least 3 times by 3 different local congregations in 2 years prior to my DF'ing. I have no idea what I got marked for each time. Can the neighbor congregation mark the publishers who's attending another kingdom Hall?(have you ever heard such?) Of course they can. They can do whatever as they go about their business. They can charge you with anything as they saw it fits into their agenda. The Watchtower is a malicious slanderer, a shamless blackmailer and a 3rd degree reputation assassin.

I've been following Menlo Park case and feel sorry for those former elders. I was/am in their shoes. My unsolicited advise for them in order to avoid much more sorrow is not to bother getting reinstated. They will not be reinstated at least for many many years. Collect as much evidences and witnesses on Watchtower and a Circuit Overseer to seek the civil justice and expose the Watchtower. Contact Mr.Zalkin(zalkin.com) or any lawyer who specializing in religious abuse.

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Knowing the Real Truth about the "truth" when you're stuck inside...

by OneDayillBeFree in

...sucks.

(warning: this could get lengthy but i have to vent and i could really use some advice).

i know ttatt and have known about it for almost 2 years, yet i'm still stuck inside.

blindnomore

I feel for you. I still attend the meetings for different reason. I don't think I can do this much longer. It effects my health. The Kingdom Hall is so toxic.

Plan rationally. Tackfully approach to your parents and may ask: "Mom and Dad, you know I've thinking, in order to better equip to support myself while reaching out for full time pioneering, I need to have better job. I would like to take job training(Watchtower stance on this and up to 2 year college schooling are acceptable) or attend a trade school or look into job corp. I need your help." You can find the school that is out of town that offers a dorm. You can do this with or without your parents' support. Approach to your parents about the plan to see their response. Plan accordingly. It will be easiler for you with their support but...... Joining the military is another option.

Where do you live? We have an extra room. We have a job corp and colleges near by our home. I want you to know you have an option. Cheer up!

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You can now download (pdf) Plaintiff's Response to WT's Request for a New Trial

by AndersonsInfo in

(pdf) plaintiff's response to wt's request for new trial:.

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http://www.mediafire.com/?di4bry8su9tn1ft.

blindnomore

Splash, we used the same referance of 93 Awake artical to a Judicial Commettee who charged an innocent rape victim child of fornication. The JC closed their ears and did even bother to take look at the artical.

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Old Watchtower Article

by turtleturtle in

anyone know if i could every buy (possibly on ebay) the article shown here.

it would have to be the original magazine because the site says the bound volume changed it:.

http://www.jwfiles.com/wt_false_predictions/20th_century.htm.

blindnomore

OP, I have the original magazine but it's in another language. I have recently learned about this too. My husband insisted his bound volume was the original until was shown from my original magazine. Even though it wasn't in English but numeric 20 Century was clearly printed to be read. He was stunned!

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Were You Ever Comfortable Going From House To House?

by minimus in

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because i was raised a witness, i don't think i was "uncomfortable" knocking on strangers' doors.

(weirdo).. but as i got older, i simply didn't want to bother anyone so i was at there door for no more than 30 seconds.

at the end i hated being there..

blindnomore

I loved it so much that it wasn't unusual for others to see me out service 7 days a week. I even had dream of going out door to door while on vacation. I was a #1 koolaid drinker.

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JW hate group

by Wayward Son in

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according to wikipedias definition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/hate_group), a hate group is an organized group or movement whose primary purpose is to promote animosity, hatred, hostility or violence toward members of a race, ethnicity, religion, gender, sexual orientation, etc.... the southern poverty law center explains that inclusion of a group in the list does not imply a group advocates or engages in violence or other criminal activity.. under the category of religious hate groups, westboro baptist church was cited for promoting hatred toward homosexuals.

creativity movement and aryan nation were mentioned as promoting racial hatred.. is it a stretch to categorize the watchtowers rhetoric toward apostates as that of a hate group?

keeping in mind that promoting or engaging in violence is not required to be identified as a hate group, does the constant degradation of other religious philosophies, organizations and adherents constitute hate speech?

blindnomore

Thank you for the suggestion, Nambo! I have already tried all other options but nothing worked.

Back to JW hate group.

Wayward Son, You have actually brought out an interesting point that is common to hate groups. For example, there are two different options were offered in the Bible in handling wayward son/daughter. Stoning(Old Test.) vs Father of prodigal son(New Test.). Jehovah's Witnesses prefer a harsher stoning policy(strict shunning) instead of a merciful policy of father of prodigal son. This never even came across to my mind as a hard core witness. I even used to said that to my teenage children how they should have been stoned if we were in ancient Israel. Now that I no longer think like JW, I can hardly believe I actually said and thought such thing toward anyone, let alone my own children. How unmerciful and hateful that is!

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Would you ever go back for the fake friends ?

by Pitchess Co-Gen in

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to quote the great rapper t.i this statement hit home : "never forget the people who stayed when everyone else left.. stay true to your team".

i had a lot of people leave my side three years ago; because some of my "phony homies" began to listen to my ex-finance spreading rumors about me and my family.

so to make a long story short i lost a lot of "friends" from my old way of life, but i picked up some true homies , and reconnected with a true homie in the long run.. i just had to ask that question because some of us were popular while we were in or we weren't the social butterflies.

blindnomore

Jake, your above comment should have been mine. Except I got DF'ed for letting elders know what bunch monstrous interragators they are to young people. It turned out that was the best thing happened to me. They were never your friends in the first place but fellow cult members who hurt you every way they can for the sake of their cult leaders. I feel like I just woke up from the worst nightmere.

I rather not have any friends if I have to.

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Do You Ever Look Back? Should We?

by Joe Grundy in

i'm a bit unusual here, never was a jw, don't suffer from the ex- or leaving jw stuff, but i surely can sympathise with those who do.. .

tomorrow ( 2 august) my divorce decree absolute is issued, disolving the marriage with my filipina princess.

i'm not sad about that, per se, it will be good to get the whole sorry episode over and done with.

blindnomore

Joe, You are in a vulnerable situation. You can easily make an emotional decision rather than rational one.

You deserve better. You deserve someone who appreciate and love you for being who you are. My ex married a Fillipina girl but only to be dumped on the very same day she got her Permanant Resident Card. She ran off with another guy. She used my ex to get to the US and get the resident card. He spent a lot of money on her. We all saw it coming except him. I just don't want you to get hurt again.

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New YouTube video - Anthony Morris warns us against the horrors of higher education

by cedars in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzcneuuajvg.

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cedars.

blindnomore

Go Tony! You have been doing an excellent job stumbling my family. Keep up the good work!

(Is he for real? I mean, is that the guy who supposedly in charge for well being of 7 million+?)