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  Ebola -274 LDS/Mormon Miss. are re-assigned, WT doing what?

  by Phizzy in

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  the lds church (mormons) have pulled 274 missionaries out of the ebola affected areas of africa and sent them to other lands.. does the wt care enough about its sales reps to do the same ?

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  ADCMS said:

  I see a new WT-sponsored donation fund coming quickly: The "Bring The Missionaries Home From Disease-Infected Regions" fund.

  'But make sure you write your checks out to the WWW. We want to use the funds wherever we see fit.'
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  hello everyone

  by purrpurr in

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  i've been browsing the site for some time as things that the society teach just are not adding up much these days.

  by exploring some of the threads on here i'm starting to see why.

  a brief bio.

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  Dis-Member:

  Thanks for that post. I imagine a lot of others appreciate it too.

  As for the JW.Org site, it is probably a good idea not to create a personal account either.

  Bobcat
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  PEER PRESSURE!!! I gave in to Pioneering during August...I feel dirty...

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
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  ok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).

  but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.

  yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......

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  A Watcher:

  Thanks for the reply, and I wish you well for your health.

  Bobcat
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  PEER PRESSURE!!! I gave in to Pioneering during August...I feel dirty...

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).

  but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.

  yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......

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  A Watcher:

  What was your reason for missing the RC? (if you don't mind me asking) And bravo for making your own decision about aux pioneering.

  Bobcat
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  Were any of the bible writers a Gentile ?

  by smiddy in

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  Luke was most likely a Gentile - Colossians 4:10-14 (NWT)

  • (Colossians 4:10-14) 10 Ar·is·tar′chus my fellow captive sends YOU his greetings, and so does Mark the cousin of Bar′na·bas, (concerning whom YOU received commands to welcome him if ever he comes to YOU,) 11 and Jesus who is called Justus, these being of those circumcised. Only these are my fellow workers for the kingdom of God, and these very ones have become a strengthening aid to me. 12 Ep′a·phras, who is from among YOU, a slave of Christ Jesus, sends YOU his greetings, always exerting himself in YOUR behalf in [his] prayers, that YOU may finally stand complete and with firm conviction in all the will of God. 13 I indeed bear him witness that he puts himself to great effort in behalf of YOU and of those at La·o·di·ce′a and of those at Hi·e·rap′o·lis. 14 Luke the beloved physician sends YOU his greetings, and so does De′mas.

  If Luke was the writer of Luke, Acts, and Hebrews, that makes him the writer of roughly 27% of the NT.

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  Gestapo Tactics - the Wayne Rogers story

  by Lee Elder in

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  2. medical

  http://ajwrb.org/experiences/gestapo-tactics-the-wayne-rogers-story.

  gestapo tactics the wayne rogers storyposted on july 27, 2014 by lee elderfreedom of thought is a right that many people take for granted.

  there are many people who believe they have freedom of thought, but are mistaken.

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  Why are the wts so concerned that a meeting might be recorded?

  That way it is 3 witnesses against the word of one, and no faithful JW will listen, or be allowed to listen, to the one.

  The word of 3 against 1 + a recording of the meeting doesn't work so well. Also, recordings of JCs have a way of becoming available to others, were others find out "the Bible was not opened until after a decision was made" and "they told me that in order to have unity, witnesses could not interpret the Bible for themselves" and " they were not there to change my mind, and I wasn’t there to change theirs."

  They want everyone else to think that you were icorrigibly wicked. For what, it doesn't matter, only that you were wicked and refused to repent. That's how the gestapo, and cults, operate.

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  circuit overseer worship

  by Magnum in

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  for over thirty years i observed among jws the phenomenon of co worship/idolatry.

  i, myself, was somewhat guilty of it even though i rather quickly caught on and detected something wrong.. think about the week of the co visit.

  during that week most attention is given to and most thought is about the co. the supposed sovereign of the universe takes a backseat.

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  "CO is also the abbrevation for Commanding Officer"

  It is. But I think of the CO more in terms of a Zampolit.
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  The Memorial- Passing the emblems, a prime display of weirdness

  by Darth Fader The Sequel in

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  2. beliefs

  not sure if this bothered other people, but it absolutely drove me crazy!!!!.

  ok, typical annual memorial.

  the emblems are being passed around.

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  Discussed this subject here also.
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  so when exactly did babylon the great fall?

  by Crazyguy in

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  in another thread a sister is being told that babylon the great fell in 1918 but all growing up i was taught that babylon the great was about to be destroyed by the un.

  so what am i missionng here or are they caught in a blatant contradiction?

  or was i hearing it wrong?.

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  CrazyGuy:

  We had a discussion about Babylon the Great's fall on this thread.

  I held to the position that in the context of John being told this (Rev 18:2, 4; late 1st century), it referred to pagandom being opened up to the spread of Christianity, similar to ancient Babylon's fall to Persia which opened up the way for Jews to return home. In the case of ancient Babylon, here complete desolation did not occur until centuries later. Same for Babylon the Great: She falls in the sense of being unable to hold on to her adherants with regard to the spread of Christianity. At a much later time she is wiped out completely (Isa 2:18-21).

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  I know 2 of the Elders on the Ray Franz JC

  by James Jackson in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  when i read coc, i was stunned that the 2 elders (theotis french & rob dibble) were on ray franz judcial committee.

  i have known these men for over 20 years having done rbc and convention work with them.

  they are still elders today which means they were in their early 30's(which is unheard of for a case of this importance to have inexperienced elders to sit on) on this committee.. without revealing myself, i have never tried(but have wanted to), ask them about their on having to judge a former gb member.. then out of the blue, about a year ago, i was mentioning how hard it is trying to get younger ones to volunteer to one of these elders, and he says"this is nothing compared to to sitting on the committee that had to disfellowship ray franz".

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  James Jackson:

  I also remember having the soft bound elders booklets (three of them, index sized) in the late 80's. The ks-91 came out in, well . . . 91. It was hardbound. And it was in use until just recently with the ks-10 (11?). I don't know if there was a hardbound elders book previous to the late eighties.

  Also, thanks for the story about the elders on RF's JC.

  Bobcat