lol @ you all for your comments
ok so i boobed but i have reposted i hope you all read it.
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lol @ you all for your comments
ok so i boobed but i have reposted i hope you all read it.
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i meant to post this awhile ago but have been very busy of late,so here goes.. i have over the years always wondered about who my paternal grandma was and what she was like.
my dad was handed over to a childs home when he was about 3yrs old and never saw his mother again, it was 1929 when he was born in a workhouse on northumberland street in london and times must have been hard.
my dad was brought up at st josephs catholic home for children until he was transfered to blaisdon hall when almost a teenager.as a child myself i never stopped thinking about who his mother was i had the notion that i looked like her.anyway these feelings persisted with me long into my adult years,i tried to question dad about his life and what he remembered,he was always a bit short with me and i got the feeling he resented the fact of what happened to him and that he thought his mother didn't love him.
Hi to you all
I meant to post this awhile ago but have been very busy of late,so here goes.
I have over the years always wondered about who my paternal grandma was and what she was like. My dad was handed over to a childs home when he was about 3yrs old and never saw his mother again, it was 1929 when he was born in a workhouse on Northumberland street in london and times must have been hard. My dad was brought up at St Josephs catholic home for Children until he was transfered to blaisdon hall when almost a teenager.As a child myself i never stopped thinking about who his mother was i had the notion that i looked like her.Anyway these feelings persisted with me long into my adult years,i tried to question dad about his life and what he remembered,he was always a bit short with me and i got the feeling he resented the fact of what happened to him and that he thought his mother didn't love him. I asked my dad what his mums name was and he said it was Mary Winifred McCarthy.I tried a little research but came up with nothing.The years went by i thought about her often.
I went to see a medium( as i had become interested in spiritualism and it's teachings since the 1980s, i spent several years studying different aspects of pyschic ability and the difference between clairvoyance and mediumship and the like.)This medium told me everything about my family named all my 6 children told me the names of my 2 husbands i was astonishe dto say the least,i said to him who is telling you all this,he said your grandma i said whats her name ,he said Mary and she says to tell you she had another son. I was excited about this and within a few days i was off to london to search the registers. This is what i found, Mary married a Robert Henry Payne in 1934 i then searched for any children of that marriage and found Robert Payne jnr my dads brother just like the medium had said,i was elated and apprehensive at the same time,many questions went through my mind,would dad except this although i wasn't prepared to tell dad anything until i could find his brother.
I got intouch with the salvation army to see if they could help me i left it in there hands.After a few weeks i had a letter to tell me they had found robert but sadly he had been killed in an accident whilst travelling to workwhere he lived in bury-st-edmonds.I was devastated,but didn't lose hope maybe he had children perhaps i could find them. So with little bits of information i put this onto the net, i waited and waited nothing happened. In the meantime which i discovered later someone else was trying to find information about his family. Then august bank holiday monday i got a phone call,now previous to this a day before infact my friend and i were talking about family and looking into the past which i told her i was already doing and i said i would love to have known my dads mum and had a photo of her to see what she looked like and that if i looked like her but i said the way things are going i may never know.Then the phone call the next day, this voice said is that sandra i said yes it is,he said my whole name,he said my name is JP and i have found you on the electrol roll. I instinctly knew where this was going and did you have a brother who died in a car accident he said yes how did you know about that, i was on the right track i thought then i told him that dad was his brother his older brother, he was speechless, he then said i didn't know my mum never told us, he said will you tell your dad he also has 3 sisters they are here with me now,we were both crying. I said my dad does not now anything at all he thinks he was an only child, at that i said i must go and see him, i was afraid at first,would the shock of this kill him he is 74yrs and a little frail.
I am sorry but this is quite a story so i will leave it there until tomorrow to finish the story, let me just say for me this is first class evidence of life after death because nobody knew any of this except the medium who said Mary had another son.
Till tomorrow then
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not really much point to this except i want to vent some anger but yesterday my little brother came round to my house for lunch, he is studying and living at the house of my jw sister, i myself have never been baptized so am not disfellowshipped but they all (with the exception of my little brother) treat me as though i where.. anyway, my little brother came round for lunch and the next thing my jw mum phones my house, asks to speak to my brother and gives him a telling off for being at my house because i'm bad association, and tells him that he has to spend more time with the members of the congregation.. he tries to explain to her that the members of the congregation don't want to know him, that he is sick of making an effort to be friendly with them when they just ignore him.. anyway, it finished with her telling him he is to go straight back to my sisters house and not see me again.. he is 24 years of age, surely its up to him if he wants to come to my house!.
sorry, i know there is no point to this, but i just wanted to let off some steam!
Ellie you have every reason to be angry, i hope your brother makes a stand because of this.
By the way where abouts in england are you from, i am in the nottingham area.
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i've read over and over again in mystic writings this basic idea about "oneness" is that "you" are the world, you are making the sun shine,, you are everything and hence the world is you.
everything in space time is an illusion of the mind and thought,,, and that there is this nonfragmentary consciousness of it all, that is nothing like the the fragmentary nature of human thought.
Hi
I have been reading the Conversation with God books by neale walsch,does anyone here agree with these words.
Five Steps to Peace.
1)We acknowledge that certain old beliefs about Life and about God are no longer working.
2)We acknowledge that there is something we do not understand about God and about Life,the understanding of which could change everthing.
3)We are willing for new understanding of God and life to now be brought forth,understandings that could produce a new way of Life on this planet.
4) We are willing to explore and examine these new understandings,and,if they align with our inner truth and knowing,to enlarge our belief system to include them.
5)We are willing to live our lves as a demonstration of our beliefs.
Thanks for reading.
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i have a friend who has just started seeing a boyfriend who is also a spiritualist; they have talked about his beliefs as such but she seems quite interested in it all.. i dont know enough to dismiss it or otherwise but has anyone else on the board had any experiences of the spiritualist church.. what are they about, what do they believe and how are they organised.. hope you can help.. db74
Hi Diamond
In reply to your post concerning spirirtualism,they do not worship demons or devils,i investigated spiritualism many years ago and i found a truth there that i found nowhere else.
There churches are light and airy and the atmosphere is calming and tranquill,the people are genuinely loving and kind,on the walls of the church you will find the words LOVE,TRUTH and LIGHT,you will also find the 7 principles that they live by.
1) The Fatherhood of God
2)The Brotherhood of Man
3)the Communion of Spirit and the Ministry of Angels
4)The Continous existence of the Human Soul
5)Personal Responsibility
6)Compensation and Retribution hereafter for all the good and evil deeds done on Earth
7) Eternal Progress open to every human Soul.
Didn't people hear voices in bible days,didn't angels appear to the people didn't prophets go into trance states,read the bible again,the church supressed this knowledge for there own power, chose what they wanted people to believe and demonized the rest.Much like the watchtower really and the rest of organised religion.
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when i wrote my ?swan song?
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/69435/1.ashx
?i promised updates, and at this point in my life, i?d like to share a few.
Hello Winston
I just read your post, i have studied the subjects you mentioned over many years and feel exactly the same way as you do.
Great post Winston
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awhiile back i posted telling you about my grandson whos mother hit him for not saying grace before a meal ( he is 15yrs old ) he has been hit on many occasions,he hates being a witness and is forced to go to the hall by his mother.
my grandson phoned us on the day his mother had hit him,he was sobbing down the phone to us and said he wanted to come and stay with us, i said yes and that i would fetch him, anyway his mum and dad have had nothing to do with me since despite me writing to them expressing how much i love my grandchildren and that i wish to see them,i have had no reply.. the other day my grandson phoned and said to my younger son that he is leaving home when he is 16 and can he come and stay with us,of course i said yes.
what i need to know is will he be disfellowshipped for living with his grandma ( i am not a jw ) of course i know what this will mean for him,his brothers and parents will shun him.. as for me what else can i do to see my grandchildren.
Thankyou all for your comments it' good to know i can come here with issues relating to the jws, there is no-one else i can turn to.
I am angry with my son because he never was hit as a child but i know that my daughter-in-law was. i will keep you posted about this one
thankyou
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awhiile back i posted telling you about my grandson whos mother hit him for not saying grace before a meal ( he is 15yrs old ) he has been hit on many occasions,he hates being a witness and is forced to go to the hall by his mother.
my grandson phoned us on the day his mother had hit him,he was sobbing down the phone to us and said he wanted to come and stay with us, i said yes and that i would fetch him, anyway his mum and dad have had nothing to do with me since despite me writing to them expressing how much i love my grandchildren and that i wish to see them,i have had no reply.. the other day my grandson phoned and said to my younger son that he is leaving home when he is 16 and can he come and stay with us,of course i said yes.
what i need to know is will he be disfellowshipped for living with his grandma ( i am not a jw ) of course i know what this will mean for him,his brothers and parents will shun him.. as for me what else can i do to see my grandchildren.
Hi everyone
Awhiile back i posted telling you about my grandson whos mother hit him for not saying grace before a meal ( he is 15yrs old ) he has been hit on many occasions,he hates being a witness and is forced to go to the hall by his mother. My grandson phoned us on the day his mother had hit him,he was sobbing down the phone to us and said he wanted to come and stay with us, i said yes and that i would fetch him, anyway his mum and dad have had nothing to do with me since despite me writing to them expressing how much i love my grandchildren and that i wish to see them,i have had no reply.
The other day my grandson phoned and said to my younger son that he is leaving home when he is 16 and can he come and stay with us,of course i said yes. What i need to know is will he be disfellowshipped for living with his grandma ( i am not a jw ) of course i know what this will mean for him,his brothers and parents will shun him.
As for me what else can i do to see my grandchildren. I love them dearly and i am angry at my son and his wife for treating me this way, i feel i have done nothing wrong except show concern for my grandson and i won't say sorry for that,what i have said sorry for in the letter is the fact that they saw it as interfering.
thanks for listening
qca1
web-posted sunday, january 2, 2005 .
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spontaneous combustion me thinks