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  We are in the Last Days of the Last Days...

  by zeroday in

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  that seemed to be the catch phrase before i left about a year ago.

  maybe they need to hire a pr firm to help out with a new catch phrase.

  any ideas?

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  The New System is so close you can almost smell it
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  Actually, that is the smell of old Bro. Strizic, who always had a cabbage casserole for dinner before the Tuesday night meeting. As he once said himself, when answering during a special needs part, "Some smells come from INSIDE body!!!".
  
  ~Quotes, of the "blame it on the dog" class
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  Watchtower Promotes Belief in Occult Life Force

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower in this article promotes the belief in some sort of occult life force present in all living beings.

  "do you have an immortal spirit?".

  http://www.watchtower.org/library/w/2001/7/15/article_02.htm.

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  DannyBloem said:
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  But once the spark of life is extinguished from the cells of the body, any efforts to restore life are futile. All the breath, or air, in the world cannot revive even one cell.
  
  Is this not something that is plain not true?
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  I agree, totally untrue. Here is a scenario. A person dies in a car crash or in some other sudden manner. Perhaps, they drown (either as part of a car accident or just a swimming/pool accident).
  
  Now suppose attempts to revive do not succeed. The person is, dead, beyond resuscitation. In WTS terms, the "spark of life" is gone from that person.
  
  Now, suppose this victim has signed their organ donor card. The doctors immediately start to remove various organs, which are then transplanted into waiting organ recipients. The organs function again in the recipient. They are "alive" (for want of a better term).
  
  As usual, WTS theories are easily show to be ridiculous and do not fit even basic facts. I guess Jahoobee is feeding them spoiled spiritual food.... or maybe it is just garbage. After all, one man's spoiled food is another man's garbage.
  
  ~Quotes, of the "spark of life... in my pants" class
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  How would you answer?

  by bagpuss in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have just started reading 'reasoning from the scriptures with jehovahs witnesses' by ron rhodes.. one of the suggested questions to ask a jw is,.

  if jehovahs witnesses are the only true witnesses for god,and if the witnesses as an organization came into being late in the 19th century,does this mean that god was without a witness forover 18 centuries of church history?.

  can anyone remember the 'official' line on this and if you had been asked this as a jw how would you have responded?

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  I'm sure others will have more details, but if memory serves, the "official" response is:
  
  "Jahoobee *DID* have an organization, he always has. In the first century, it was the apostles. Today it is WTBTS. Throughout the intervening centuries he has used faithful followers of Jesus." (Commence the crazy, arbitrary handwaving to indicate that they don't have any examples to back this up).
  
  Actually, IIRC, at one time they suggested that Wycliffe was once used by god; interesting because at another time they lumped him in with the rest of "Christendom".
  
  ~Quotes, of the "They don't have any proof to back up that claim" class
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  Aimee Satterfield - GUILTY

  by Nathan Natas in

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  2. scandals

  http://www.joplinglobe.com/story.php?story_id=195188&c=87

  false-rape claim case settled

  woman found guilty after no defense is presented; probation granted.

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  She didn't fully think through her fake-rape-to-hide-fornication alibi:
  
  In the articles I just read, there is no indication that she screamed. Is she didn't scream then she commited fornication, according to WTS.
  
  Oh wait a minute, it's OK, you don't have to scream.
  
  Yes you do.
  
  No you don't.
  
  Yes you do.
  
  No you don't.
  
  ~Quotes, of the "screamed while being brually Sodomized by my Judial Committee" class
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  Andersens Carpets - Sex Sells!

  by PopeOfEruke in

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  2. scandals

  the andersen carpet company which has stores thoughout queensland is a jw-owned company, i think the orginal bro.

  andersen who founded the company was from gatton (?

  most staff that work there are jw's and jw paraphernalia can often be seen around the sales desks.

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  Speaking of (female) Pioneers. This riddle was given to me by a (male) pioneer:
  
  Q: What's the difference between an American, a Rooster, and a Pioneer Sister????
  
  A: The American says "Yankee-Doodle-Doo".
  
  The Rooster says "Cock-A-Doodle-Doo".
  
  The Pioneer Sister says "Any-Dude-Will-Do"
  
  ~Quotes, of the "Riddler" class
  
  P.S. (for honorable marriage, of course!)
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  Help, need magazines or bound vols 2002-2004 and recent books

  by Dogpatch in

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  2. friends

  hi folks,.

  i am helping someone in prison with a project and need all the watchtower and awake!

  magazines from 2002 to 2004, and 2005 if you have any.

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  BTTT
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  well, in our cong. service is now "expected" on Saturday.

  by ?me? in

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  2. friends

  a few months ago we had a local needs part about supporting the cbs field service on saturday.

  it was given by a nice older elder, but what he said was pretty scary.

  he used all the phrases and logic that are usually used for meeting attendance.

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  One year a particulary self-amused SOB elder (who later served on my Judicial Committee) had this great idea: move the Thursday night book study to 8:00am Saturday. That way, if you attended the book study, you were pretty much trapped and had to go out in service.
  
  They eventually switched it back to Thursday night. The problem was it backfired. Instead of bringing up Saturday Service to the level of the Book Study, the opposite happened: book study attendance dropped down to the low level of Saturday Service.
  
  David Evanson: Your ideas were almost as amusing as watching Jackie Gleason's "Ralph Kramdon" on an episode of "The Honeymooners".
  
  ~Quotes, of the "Norton" class
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  Was it really so peaceful prior to 1914?

  by ithinkisee in

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  2. friends

  was it really so peaceful before 1914?.

  the society loves to claim there was an unprecedented amount of peace prior to 1914 and that wwi was a complete shock to the world when it began.

  yet history claims otherwise:.

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  Adding to the_classicist's list:
  
  There were TWO (not one, but TWO!) Balkan Wars in the years just prior to 1914 (don't have the exact dates with me). Europe was a tenderkeg that had already gone off twice. To suggest it was peaceful, and that WWI "came out of nowhere" proves how poorly informed are WTS researchers.
  
  My tour of the National Military Museum in Bucharest, Romania, was very eye opening regarding the history of European wars. (Seriously, there must have been a war every 25-50 years for like the last 500 years). I suspect *any* war museum in any European country would be equally instructive.
  
  WTS bends both bible scripture, and historical facts, to fit their pathetic theology.
  
  ~Quotes, of the "Archduke Ferdinand" class
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  Psychoanalyzing the Governing Body and Other High Ranking Ones from a Dista

  by frankiespeakin in

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  2. friends

  psychoanalyzing the governing body and other high ranking ones from a distance.. i'm interested in some professional opinions on this, what makes these guys tick, what makes them perpetuate a fraud on the rest of jehovah's witnesses?.

  i know some can be pretty dogmatic in these areas, lets not try to be, lets look at this thing from many angles.

  even if your not a professional give your opinions.

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  Scully's post got me thinking: can psycho disorders be "learned"??? How does the DSM-IV categorize delusions, paranoia, etc, that has been learned through others?
  
  BTW I completely agree that the GB demonstrates those conditions; I'm just wondering what is the current thinking on learned behaviour? Do psychologists make a distinction between learned paranoia vs. internally generated paranoia?
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  Was there something you could not explain on the doors?

  by badboy in

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  i heard from someone that they asked about the bible and dinosauros,the jw didn't believe and talked about whales in reply!.

  was there something you couldn't explain on the doors?

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  I was asked when going to someone else's return visit:
  
  "So let me get this staight. You are saying that the prospect for someone who leaves your religion, say, because they are addicted to smoking/nicotine, is the same as the punishment for hitler, who was responsible for killing millions of people????? That doesn't make any sense and doesn't sound fair."
  
  My response was a pathetic "well, that is what the bible tells us, and blah blah blah" (I don't even know what I said, because his point was valid and reasonable, and struck me to my core.... but I couldn't let *HIM* know that!