Posts by radar

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How do we learn to really trust?

by Sirona in

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having been betrayed by the jehovahs witnesses - both the organisation and the individuals who now shun us - how do we learn to trust again?.

i ask this because i have realised that i dont trust anyone.

it goes beyond a healthy mistrust of strangers...it affects my closest relationships.

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Sirona

One of the Illusions that we had when we were JWs, is that people genuinely cared about us.
The love we felt and expressed to others was conditional.
It was conditional on how we measured up to watchtower thought processes. eg: If you missed a few meetings then you were viewed as being weak, first with gentle concern but after with suspicion.
You would be invited out to "gettogethers" more if you were considered as being a "Spiritual" person etc.
After rejecting Watchtower thought, you were then rejected by all who belonged to the watchtower.
It is any wonder that you fear to trust.

In reality, I have found nobody outside my immediate family that I could trust. Shortly after my exit from the watchtower, various Christian people kindly offered a hand of friendship, yet I could not escape the thought that they were motivated by the same thought processes that JWs were.

By trying to smother people with affection at times, you hope to win their trust, this comes about by feelings of insecurity, particularly if your father abandoned you at an early age.
Did you ever see the film: EAST OF EDEN? it is about a father who was very religious and who rejected one of his two sons. This son tried desperately to win his fathers trust.
Maybe you could have a look at it one time?

Better to love(trust) and lost then to never love at all.

Try not to worry about the next day, for each day as its own anxieties.(from the good book}

Kind regards

Radar

Like all people who have nothing, I lived on dreams

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Are we equal...?

by DannyBear in

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friends

when an employer resorts to comments like 'who sign's your check?

' or 'are you biting the hand that feed's you?

', it is normally due to some perceived or overt violation of loyalty, or simply to shut the employee up regarding the subject matter at hand.. i don't like the tactic, because it is rarely used in a one on one situaltion, but generally in the ear shot of other's, to squelch the matter.

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Like all people who have nothing, I lived on dreams

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My Book of Bible Stories: Noah

by Simon in

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remember this?.

the noah let a black bird called a raven out of the ark.

it kept doing this and each time it returned, it would rest on the ark.. noah wanted to see if the waters had run off the earth, so next he sent a dove out of the ark.

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Blondie

You said: "humans did not eat animals before the flood."

Typical Watchtower thinking! Why was Cain called a herder of Sheep?
Where did he aquire his skills at slaughtering them and so putting them upon the "Alter" as an offering.

If your Watchtower thinking is correct, then God was responsible for the flood and so he was also responsible for turning the whole of manknd into meat eaters.
Not that I believe any of the Bible Fairy Stories, just illustrating how stupid it all gets.

Radar

Like all people who have nothing, I lived on dreams

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What made you a JW?

by radar in

why did you become a dub?.

a hope for something better?.

an acceptance that your parents religion was the truth?.

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Mindchild/mindfield/Tamie

At least you have an excuse. Many like myself actually chose this religion!
That's why I am interested in responses.

The Watchtower would claim that its Jehovah's Spirit. Although they have backtracked a little on this in recent years, by saying the seperation of the Sheep and Goats is yet future.
Which makes you wonder how the little flock of annointed sheep got chosen.!! !

Radar

Like all people who have nothing, I lived on dreams

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What made you a JW?

by radar in

why did you become a dub?.

a hope for something better?.

an acceptance that your parents religion was the truth?.

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Outlaw

I find Youknow interesting

On the old H20 "Youknow" would post regularly, in defense of the Watchtower.
When H20 was about to dissolve, "Youknow" revealed his belief that the Watchtower had its failings.
Now he is a lot quieter than before. This maybe due in part that many of his own predictions, like the Watchtower have come to nothing.

He illustrates to me why many JWs will never accept the TRUTH even when it's before their eyes.

Youknow, you said "I also recognized the presence of Jehovah's spirit in the congregation and in my own life."

I respect your view, can you tell me HOW you recognised the presence 0f this spirit?

Radar

Like all people who have nothing, I lived on dreams

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What made you a JW?

by radar in

why did you become a dub?.

a hope for something better?.

an acceptance that your parents religion was the truth?.

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Youknow

I posted this as an open topic, and I always appreciate everyones viewpoint.
Though your view of the watchtower as always baffled me.

Radar

Like all people who have nothing, I lived on dreams

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Silliest thing that Witnesses told you was wrong?

by gilwarrior in

there are two things.

in the early and mid 80s there were witnesses saying that the cartoon characters the smurfs were not acceptable for witnesses.

i had two smurf cartoon books and my mother made me throw them away.

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Anglise/Comf

Esso Tiger tails !! I wore them on the hood of my Parker coat, like all good "Mods"
Memories memories.

Radar

Like all people who have nothing, I lived on dreams

39

What made you a JW?

by radar in

why did you become a dub?.

a hope for something better?.

an acceptance that your parents religion was the truth?.

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Why did you become a DUB?

A Hope for something better?
An Acceptance that your parents religion was the Truth?
The belief that the 9 to 5 routine of life would one day end?
The novelty and relative safety of belonging to such a group.?
Gave you a purpose to life?
The moral appearence?
You never understood the Bible so thought the Watchtower view was logical although radical?
The idea that suffering will one day end?

Can you remember?

Radar

Like all people who have nothing, I lived on dreams

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My Book of Bible Stories: Noah

by Simon in

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friends

remember this?.

the noah let a black bird called a raven out of the ark.

it kept doing this and each time it returned, it would rest on the ark.. noah wanted to see if the waters had run off the earth, so next he sent a dove out of the ark.

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Simon
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What kind of idiot would make this stuff up, never mind believe it!

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Well considering most on this board once believed it, I guess we were that kind of idiot!

When I look back at how I used to teach this crazy story to my children, and then at that time, make fun of those that believed in Christmas, Its embarrasing.

Radar

Like all people who have nothing, I lived on dreams

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The coming Death of Simon's Board?

by Mindchild in

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is there a cure for the cancer that is growing on this board?

i discuss this below and think there is and maybe you will like it.

if you didnt know it already, im a veteran of web-based communities and i can trace my virtual roots to living in the first generation of online hangouts (which were direct dialup electronic bulletin boards before the web was around) like the well and echo.

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Skipper

Intersting comments but how do you determine a good post?

and will not the board of moderators become like the Governing body of JWs?

Radar

Like all people who have nothing, I lived on dreams