for me, that happy day was in morro bay, calif. it was the fall, oct 1958 or 9. gorgeous weather.
the sun was shining and the wind was coming off of the ocean.. at that time, morro bay was unassigned territory.. talesin on another thread was talking about a lovely day she had, going with her grandfather, talking with a mr languages.
lol.
I don't remember the nicest day in the ministry right now, but I clearly remember the day when a brother that looked like Anthony Perkins in Psycho was introduced to me as if he was a great catch that I should be very grateful to work with, and another day shortly after that when an elderly sister winked at me when he was passing by.
found this on youtube.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wknttmfvhfi.
Somebody replied this to her on her youtube account:
" Look, most persons who leave JWs simply move on in life, some with the viewpoint that the religion just wasn't for them, some with minor grumbling over this or that feature of the faith that prompted their decision, some with the viewpoint that they couldn't live up to it.
None of these are viewed as 'apostates.' To be sure, we don't think their decision is wise, but they're not "apostate." A fair number eventually return. You could liken those leaving to a man or woman leaving a relationship, like a failed marriage. Most just move on. But there's always a certain few psycho ex-mates that can't let go, who devote all their time and energy to harassing the person they once loved.
Sigh...apostate cry-babies and obsessive losers and fanatics, with their demented soap-box, commit the logical fallacy of "selective observation"...and see only what they want to see...to suit their neurotic agendas. And ignore other things, conveniently and dishonestly, if it doesn't fit their twisted pre-biases, or their demented paradigms..."
So, basically what this person is saying is that people that was scammed by this corporation should just move on with their lives, pretty much like somebody that ends a romantic relantionship.
If they don't, they are likened to (brace yourself) A STALKER, rather a psycho that can not let go of a former relationship.
And we thought THEY were the stalkers.
if it can be proved that someone has been brainwashed,conditioned mentally,pychologically,emotionally and spiritually can a person successfully sue an individual or organization.
after all it is a form of abuse.
The first amendement is used as an excuse to violate the human rights of millions of people, but only if you are a religion, which is kind of telling.
Pornography has nothing to do with free speech, it is an attack on all women's rights as it affects how they are viewed and how they are treated, and it wouldn't be tolerated if it was used to denigrate any other collective like blacks, jews, etc.
America is NOT a free country and it is exporting its (lack of) culture to the rest of the world by different means, one of them under the guise of free speech, which they do not practice with things that are politically incorrect like examining the link between capitalism and communism, and the similarities between the so called cold war and the war on terror as an excuse to continue controlling society.
how do ya figure this!??.
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http://www.opposingviews.com/i/religion/survey-finds-evangelical-christians-are-most-likely-cheat-their-spouses.
I don't believe this statistic. What I saw is that on average there were more cases of cheating in a KH of 150 than in a workplace with 500 people.
It may have something to do with being constantly bombarded with: do NOT commit fornication. It is like being reminded day in day out: do NOT think of a pink elephant. They say the brain does not understand a negative so it might have the opposite effect working as reverse pshychology. Just a theory.
if it can be proved that someone has been brainwashed,conditioned mentally,pychologically,emotionally and spiritually can a person successfully sue an individual or organization.
after all it is a form of abuse.
Try to do to somebody what this corporation has done to you and see what happens.
They have a very strong backing otherwise they wouldn't get away with half the scamming, lying, manipulating, stalking, bullying, harassing and interfering in people's private lives.
Not to mention using brain washing techniques, coercion to get confessions about things that are none of their business, discrimination towards women, slandering the good name of former members that see them for what they are, imposing others to isolate people just because the organization says so under the threat of being the one isolated from the group, promoting simple-mindness and punishing any demonstration of intelligence, breaking relationships with their policies of nose-sticking, etc, etc...
in reality, they are pretty insignificant..
They are the biggest american corporation with presence in most countries of the world.
To know exactly how relevant they are you would need to ask the US government.
So far they have remained silent.
someone made a comment today that josephus cannot be trusted as a historical source.
they are right or half right.
obviously josephus was a self-centered historian.
It seems Josephus was probably jewish damage control in response to the message of the Gospels.
in another thread, one of our members made a comment that caught my attention.. i have been trying to put my finger on a practice amongst the org and witnesses in general.... as soon as someone does something well, accomplishes something, or excels at something, the atmosphere effectiveley 'kicks them in the gut' to bring them down.. anything that makes a person grow or develop is blatently discouraged and therefore self esteem is squashed!.
the constant message telling a witness to be 'humble' is designed to suck any sense of growth or 'betterment' out of a person..... therefore this leaves the average witness to be a blubbering mess of insecurity and instability completely dependant on the organization...kind of like a 'battered-wife' scenario.... .
Another pernicious practice they have is stroking the ego of idiots.
If you are a sister you will have to deal with ugly, uninteresting guys with nothing to offer, that will treat you with a lot condescendence even when they see you running away from them. It's disturbing.
wanna prove to yourself that jws can't let go of negativity and hate?
that it is at the core of their faith?
ask the following question:.
While most religions and philosophies preach to love your neighbour, Leviticus 27:1-12; 28-29 is quite self-explanatory about how Judaism views "the others". It is by no means the only such text, but the Talmud is even more explicit in case some jew does not understand the point.
The WT philosophy is founded on the basis that they are the "chosen" ones now, the new jews so to speak and the rest of the world is in the hands of Satan the devil so they will unfortunately have to die at Armageddon. Shame they didn't listen when we came to their door with that Awake magazine. It was their choice really.
The Bible and specifically the Old Testament is a manual of supremacy for the "chosen" ones. It is all there in plain sight hence all the efforts to interpret it and confuse things before people can see the obvious. Kind of a Babel Tower effect.
Islam just seems like a re-inerpretation of Christianity but also and most importantly, a powerful rival. For some reason Christianity has encountered a lot of opposition from the begining, and has produced more martyrs than any other faith throughout history. But unexplicably it refuses to name her historical enemy which is presenting itself as the victim, something quite ashtonishing.
Babylon, Egypt, Persia...all gone with the wind, but thankfully a lot of their myths have been passed on to us through the Bible in an adapted version.
"The world should know this fact, that we will remain together." Ahmadinejad. Who could have imagined it? Spain 711 AD.
xjw protests & videos.
.. i am disturbed by some of the more aggressive apostates posting videos on youtube,like "a jw memorial to remember" where a drunk man goes to a memorial and downs the whole glass of wine as a sort of protest.
this video and others like it received positive comments from aawa members.
My theory is that they get nervous when somebody leaves and appears well-balanced, specially if there was no scandalous fornication case involved in their leaving Noah's Ark.
They may be only drones, but as a group they are trained to drive ex-jws to madness. For example: group stalking, impertinent questions, while a number of them start ignoring you can be a very volatile cocktail, specially after you discover TTATT.
Also some of the apostate sites don't look genuine, they look designed to find out exactly what was that opened your eyes or to dissapoint you, specially if you are on the first stages of waking up.
Who knows what they come up with in order to explain the cases of successful apostates who start doing great in life after leaving the spiritual hell. It would be interesting to hear. Who could be a microphone on the wall sometimes!
