Posts by truthlover123

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Manners and Respectfulness

by IWant2Know in

i would like to know if there are any ex's or formers who still appreciate good manners and respectfulness?

but i hope this question isn't offensive to this forum.

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Manners and Respectfulness

by IWant2Know in

i would like to know if there are any ex's or formers who still appreciate good manners and respectfulness?

but i hope this question isn't offensive to this forum.

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truthlover123

Always a thanks, have a great day, do you need a hand reaching that? If you car about people, you try to encourage

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Is There Going to be Money in the New System?

by NotFormer in

if not, what's in it for the gb?.

but seriously, how is it supposed to work?

pictures of jws in paradise show them raising crops, wearing clothes and building houses.

truthlover123

Naked? If one was not to wear underpants when serving at the temple, I doubt that very much.

Even if there was 1000 years of mental and physical cleansing of our gene/dna/desires, I'm sure the gawking would still take place- very impolite and personal Give me a fig leaf or three

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Governing body

by moley in

are the governing body really in charge or are they just a figurehead with the real power being behind the curtain .

truthlover123

I believe the legal department and investment (financial dept) are in charge. GB2 is just a figurehead.

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Will the GB Eventually "observe" Tithing?

by Sea Breeze in

jw
friends

found this on fb from the recent losch talk.

time for a new business model?.

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I have mentioned, several times, they don't have to use the word 'tithing". They already have a buzz word for that- "donation". They advise the congregation they are going to read a letter from the society. That letter stipulates amounts to be given per publisher( suggestions of course)- the elders in their wisdom set the amount, another meeting, explanation how dire it is to get the good news out there with Jehovahs Blessing( guilt) then its a raise hands who agrees with the "suggestion"- and of course, no one wants to stand out as a negative, so its passed with a majority vote. This happens regularly and I am so pissed that- who was it that said- "if the money stops, its time to stop preaching"? Well, the money is stopping, what do they say now? The people are so mind controlled, sheep is the best way to describe their attitudes. Get in line, do what I say, if you don't, you are an apostate or spiritually sick, or not studying the repetitive WT materials enough or holy spirit has left the building. Now they are selling memberships- each publisher has to pay every month $15.00 a head- that's forever, every 30 days, until they want more. So a member- no -they don't use that specific word anymore. Your a publisher or someone in the congregation, but if you are going in service, you pay! and to put icing on the cake, receive Jehovahs blessing again. They haven't figured out Jehovah does not need money. Yet the cry for "unrighteous riches" and refuse to say what they are doing for it... One hall in Nigeria maybe? or Iqualiuit?

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New meeting format

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

just watched november broadcast very different order to the leaked agm .

be good if someone did a deep dive on the difference and why the changes?

i didn’t time the items but it should be easy to see if edited?.

truthlover123

DoC- they asked for $15.00 per pub last month, that means every month the society will receive almost $2000.00 from the "contribution" box. What happened to never having a mortgage to renovate the halls when this abomination is happening? That $2 grand is on top of expenses and the WW contribution sent every month as well.

Peaceful Pete: this seems, in itself, to be a membership fee although pubs are no longer indicated to be a member.

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CIVILIAN SERVICE

by blondie in

how many remember when the wts changed their policy on alternative service; changed it to alternative civilian service so jw men could choose it because it was not supervised by the military.

shows how the wts quibbles with words to advance a "new teaching.

" flag salute, voting, civilian service p. 212. civilian service.

truthlover123

So what about" Pay Caesar's things to Caesar and God's things to God? There is no glaring inference here that your spirituality is at risk.

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With no reporting necessary do they still need a territory guy?

by carla in

now that they no longer have to report hours do they still need a territory guy?

maps?

etc...?.

truthlover123

Since there is a scripture quoted to support the fact that service numbers are no longer required for the RF, is anyone questioning that this "new light" scripture can be changed at any time? Remember, the holy spirit changes his mind, i.e. generation, anointed, etc. (sarcasm) so if you had an acquaintance who waffled those multiple times, would you continue to listen to them?

The Holy Spirit does not change, just as Jehovah does not change therefore anything considered new light is at once, suspect, a lie, especially if it has been changed 10-12 times as the generation and anointed status has been.

Their own magazines and books are witness to this fact - this is not made up by "apostates"

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THIS is how Jehovah operates? Examining GB Jefffrey Winder's words

by Terry in

governing body member jeffrey winder on jw dot org:“we are not embarrassed about ‘adjustments’ that are made; nor is an apology needed for not getting it ‘exactly right’ previously.

we understand: this is how jehovah operates.”

1952 no wt 6/1/52 p.338 1965 maybe they will be resurrected .

truthlover123

Terry:

Keep on keepin on-- those who still have an issue that because we speak of the early years and rehash 1925 1975 etc. that now is the time to forget the glaring untruths this organization has foisted on its followers.

The ONLY way to know how this company works, and I do say company, is to continue to gain bodies that will continue to adhere to the listen, obey mantra and don't ask questions. Get those newbies in to give them more money and slave labor volunteers to build their massive, sprawling "safe" houses for the Big A. when it comes.

Are these guys putting their faith in a brick and mortar building? Protection?

This is a money making racket and nothing more, supplying its adherents with half truths and lies while using scripture to prove their evil intent.

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THIS is how Jehovah operates? Examining GB Jefffrey Winder's words

by Terry in

governing body member jeffrey winder on jw dot org:“we are not embarrassed about ‘adjustments’ that are made; nor is an apology needed for not getting it ‘exactly right’ previously.

we understand: this is how jehovah operates.”

1952 no wt 6/1/52 p.338 1965 maybe they will be resurrected .

truthlover123

Terry

Where is this found on jw.org please? The two sites given are wiped. thanks