When anyone says-" it seems it would be presumptuous"- isn't that a hard statement to lead people to question those two little words and that, no- you have doubts in making that wording about being the only religion to help people get into the new system? That other beliefs may also be able to do so as well? 'Seems' to who? Just because he mentioned the slave later on, his statement would cause any thinking follower to have doubts. It did me. He didn't say, yes we have the true religion- he squirreled around the question. His answer should have been questioned further. Stewart was great, no doubt about it, but these GB can lie til the cows come home. He (Jackson) changed the subject like you would change a kids mind.
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Did Geoffrey Jackson lie under oath at the ARC?
by Vanderhoven7 ini understand he intimated that the faithful slave was not the only spokesman for jehovah god.
he also intimated that corporal punishment was not advocated by the wts.
we're these lies or deception or did they represent the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?.
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Have Kingdom Halls ever been used as evacuation centres?
by no-zombie inwhile our attentions has been drawn many times to kingdom halls being used as distribution centres (often distributing government supplied relief goods), during a local disaster.
i can't remember reading or hearing of, kingdom halls being opened to house displaced witnesses during these times.. can any one else?.
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With the old sayings of" when great tribulation happens, come to the hall for further instructions" - well, they are selling off the halls, no brick and mortar buildings will likely be a secure site, no cell phone service, no support- therefore, if the 09 leave, and all the trials are going on, the other old saying "kiss your a... goodbye", would definitely apply.
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Manners and Respectfulness
by IWant2Know ini would like to know if there are any ex's or formers who still appreciate good manners and respectfulness?
but i hope this question isn't offensive to this forum.
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care that is
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Manners and Respectfulness
by IWant2Know ini would like to know if there are any ex's or formers who still appreciate good manners and respectfulness?
but i hope this question isn't offensive to this forum.
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Always a thanks, have a great day, do you need a hand reaching that? If you car about people, you try to encourage
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Is There Going to be Money in the New System?
by NotFormer inif not, what's in it for the gb?.
but seriously, how is it supposed to work?
pictures of jws in paradise show them raising crops, wearing clothes and building houses.
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Naked? If one was not to wear underpants when serving at the temple, I doubt that very much.
Even if there was 1000 years of mental and physical cleansing of our gene/dna/desires, I'm sure the gawking would still take place- very impolite and personal Give me a fig leaf or three
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Governing body
by moley inare the governing body really in charge or are they just a figurehead with the real power being behind the curtain .
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I believe the legal department and investment (financial dept) are in charge. GB2 is just a figurehead.
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Will the GB Eventually "observe" Tithing?
by Sea Breeze infound this on fb from the recent losch talk.
time for a new business model?.
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I have mentioned, several times, they don't have to use the word 'tithing". They already have a buzz word for that- "donation". They advise the congregation they are going to read a letter from the society. That letter stipulates amounts to be given per publisher( suggestions of course)- the elders in their wisdom set the amount, another meeting, explanation how dire it is to get the good news out there with Jehovahs Blessing( guilt) then its a raise hands who agrees with the "suggestion"- and of course, no one wants to stand out as a negative, so its passed with a majority vote. This happens regularly and I am so pissed that- who was it that said- "if the money stops, its time to stop preaching"? Well, the money is stopping, what do they say now? The people are so mind controlled, sheep is the best way to describe their attitudes. Get in line, do what I say, if you don't, you are an apostate or spiritually sick, or not studying the repetitive WT materials enough or holy spirit has left the building. Now they are selling memberships- each publisher has to pay every month $15.00 a head- that's forever, every 30 days, until they want more. So a member- no -they don't use that specific word anymore. Your a publisher or someone in the congregation, but if you are going in service, you pay! and to put icing on the cake, receive Jehovahs blessing again. They haven't figured out Jehovah does not need money. Yet the cry for "unrighteous riches" and refuse to say what they are doing for it... One hall in Nigeria maybe? or Iqualiuit?
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New meeting format
by ExBethelitenowPIMA injust watched november broadcast very different order to the leaked agm .
be good if someone did a deep dive on the difference and why the changes?
i didn’t time the items but it should be easy to see if edited?.
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DoC- they asked for $15.00 per pub last month, that means every month the society will receive almost $2000.00 from the "contribution" box. What happened to never having a mortgage to renovate the halls when this abomination is happening? That $2 grand is on top of expenses and the WW contribution sent every month as well.
Peaceful Pete: this seems, in itself, to be a membership fee although pubs are no longer indicated to be a member.
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CIVILIAN SERVICE
by blondie inhow many remember when the wts changed their policy on alternative service; changed it to alternative civilian service so jw men could choose it because it was not supervised by the military.
shows how the wts quibbles with words to advance a "new teaching.
" flag salute, voting, civilian service p. 212. civilian service.
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So what about" Pay Caesar's things to Caesar and God's things to God? There is no glaring inference here that your spirituality is at risk.
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With no reporting necessary do they still need a territory guy?
by carla innow that they no longer have to report hours do they still need a territory guy?
maps?
etc...?.
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Since there is a scripture quoted to support the fact that service numbers are no longer required for the RF, is anyone questioning that this "new light" scripture can be changed at any time? Remember, the holy spirit changes his mind, i.e. generation, anointed, etc. (sarcasm) so if you had an acquaintance who waffled those multiple times, would you continue to listen to them?
The Holy Spirit does not change, just as Jehovah does not change therefore anything considered new light is at once, suspect, a lie, especially if it has been changed 10-12 times as the generation and anointed status has been.
Their own magazines and books are witness to this fact - this is not made up by "apostates"