I let my mom use my laptop to make a call while we were overseas, and I completely forgot if I was on JWN earlier and left it open. I think my heart could have powered our entire hotel room... that's how nervous I was. Fortunately, if she read any of the comments, they either weren't saying anything that would raise a red flag, or she's harbouring those thoughts to use as ammunition later on. This was about 4 months ago though, so I doubt that the latter is the case.
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more wifey issues. she seen my phone and this web site was op
by unstopableravens inmy son grab my phone and wifey seen this site.
on for a second she was mad.
led into arugment today.
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"newbie" post - after eight years registered
by pajaha inactually, this is my second post as i replied to a thread a few moments ago, but it turns out i originally registered eight years ago but had never posted.. i left in 2000 (from a newport, s wales, congregation) having been brought up in it from about the age of three.
initially, i was obsessed with research and posting to forums but got over it after a few years and just rediscovered this site a couple of days ago.
i just thought it would be worth posting my account of leaving in case it helped others.. i always considered myself to be "strong in the truth" and genuinely believed it,, but i suppose the amount of suppressed doubts had been mounting up and i think it was the summer of 1999 when i first thought of leaving.
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As it turned it, though, eventually both parents came out of it too, I believe mainly after many discussions with me after I'd left. Never underestimate the power of family ties. It is sometimes stronger than religious beliefs. They knew I wasn't daft and they were prepared to listen to what I had to say.
That is very encouraging. I'm not out yet, but I've already starting discussing a few things with my parents...legimitate topics so that they will never forget my points about it, but subtle enough so that the apostate shields aren't triggered. I hope that when I leave and inform them why I'm leaving (if they'll bother to listen) that they'll consider my problems and hopefully leave too.
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September 15 2012 quote.
by DATA-DOG indoes anyone know what wt article the following quote came from?
i am interested in the context of the article, and as usual there is no source mentioned for the rank-and-file to check.. " brethren, those of us who are in the right attitude toward god are not disappointed at any of his arrangements.
we did not wish our own will to be done; so when we found out that we were expecting the wrong thing in october 1914, then we were glad that the lord did not change his plan to suit us.
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Like someone else mentioned in another thread, they may not claim to be inspired, but they do claim to be "spirit-directed". Is there a difference? Not to me. If anything, "spirit-directed" means more than "spirit-inspired".
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The teaching of the generation that would not pass away was part of the preaching work. I don't think that it could be separated from the preaching work that I was engaged in as a pioneer in the 70's. The teaching then about the time limit of a generation has changed.
Therefore I don't think God required me to preach this message in the 1970's.
This is one of my biggest problems with JWs. I brought this up to my parents, but I was shot down hard. Now I'm seen as someone who's doubting the organization.
When they say "never discuss doctrine with a cult member", they mean it, no matter how subtle the question may be!
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I don't want to die.
by paul from cleveland ini've been conditioned since childhood that i'm going to live forever.
i'm having a hard time contemplating the fact that i'm going to die.
i'm so afraid of death that i can't enjoy the life i have now.
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"Everything dies. Even planets and stars."
Of course a common JW response would be that the original sin "spread" to the planets and stars, as it did for the animals and plants. I'm sure.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 10-01-2012 WT Study (CITIZENS)
by blondie incarry on as kingdom citizens!.
way we can learn gods law is to study.
kingdom citizens appreciate warnings.
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TIL that God's Kingdom = Watchtower.
The history of this religion will only reveal TTATT, and nothing more.
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Apostasy Trial - Part 4
by RayPublisher inthe second 45 minute video is now online:.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zcvocgamqg&feature=youtu.be.
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Is Jesus your mediator? "Absolutely, through the faithful slave!"
Well folks, that just about wraps it up. If you still had any doubts about the WT being a sham, this should just about wipe those doubts out.
Jehovah>"Faithful Slave">Jesus>Everyone else. This is fantastic. Jesus doesn't even really belong in that sequence according to them...but I put it there since it was brought up.
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What was the biggest lie that you have ever told any JWs while you were still a JW?
by Iamallcool ini was deleted as ms some years ago, a brother thought i became an elder.
at the circuit assembly, he asked me if i am elder now, i said yes so the brother told me all of the gritty details about his wife and her sister that got disfellowshipped at the same time.
they went out with the worldly guys and they both got pregnant.
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Lies I've told my parents:
- Nothing is troubling me...I am still just as enthused about "the truth" as I have always been.
- I no longer masturbate.
- I missed my #3 talk because my bus was late.
- I'm not leading a double life.
- I've never been to the local clothing-optional beach.
- I have no secrets I'm hiding from them. (Honestly? Who doesn't have secrets they hide from others?)
- I wasn't shocked or troubled when I discovered that the number of anointed is rising.
- I only research using the WT library.
- I stay up late because I'm studying the bible.
- No that wasn't porn you saw on the screen a few seconds ago, that was pictures of people with rashes. I need it for a project I'm doing.
- I already closed it because I found what I needed.
- I've never seen porn intentionally.
- I would never leave "the truth".
- Of course I'm proud to be a JW.
- Yes I read the magazines...just because you don't see me reading them, doesn't mean I don't.
- Yes I talk to others about "the truth" at school. Most of them aren't interested though.
- Of course it bothers me if I haven't gone out in field service in a while.
- Yes I did do the daily text.
- Yes I read the weekly bible reading.
- Of course I want to go do your study with you (although sometimes this is true if I desperately want to get out of the sun).
- No field service isn't becoming a "routine" for me, I only go out on weekends because that's the only time I can. If I could go out more I would.
- I know that I don't know anyone from other states.
- I would never marry a "wordly" person.
- No I'm not using my bike as an excuse to get out of the house.
- I've never watched porn on my phone.
- I don't talk to any "wordly" people on the phone unless I have to, especially if it's for school.
- Of course I pay attention to the program while in the debit card office during assembly.
Lies I've told others:
- I want to become a bethelite.
- I want to serve my congregation (as an MS/elder).
- I might become a pioneer when I graduate (from college).
- I actually do have spiritual goals.
- I love pioneering.
- I love field service.
- I would love to visit bethel again (at the time I didn't know I was lying).
- I won't be able to make it for my #3 talk.
- Of course I want to go do your study with you.
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12/15/12 Watchower Study Edition - Higher Eduction = Thinking in a "complicated" manner
by yourmomma ini found this quote from the 12/15/12 p.29 study edition of the watchtower to be hilarious:.
"a college graduate in the united states.
says: i spent 18 years speaking and writing.
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When the time comes for this study to be done in the Kingdom Hall, I got the idea of reading the full quote as a comment and explaining the true meaning. But at the same time I might be escorted out of the kingdom hall for trying to change what the GB is intending to convey.
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Just Discovered www.jehovahs-witness.COM
by binadub init appears to be a mirror of this site, discussions on the forum and all, except in a different format.. is this under construction?
it has some nice features--including the advertisements not being so intrusive.. just doesn't let you log in and post (yet?)..
~binadub.
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sseveninches
I was able to login just fine. You just need to put your registered email address instead of your username.