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razorMind
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Witness sayings
by Teela inas i was growing up in the troof.
there were sayings used over and over again to control my behaviour.
the biblical on bad associations spoil useful habits and another on just because everyone else does it doesnt mean you have to do it to, would you jump off a cliff just because other people do what were the sayings that bugged you?
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Witness sayings
by Teela inas i was growing up in the troof.
there were sayings used over and over again to control my behaviour.
the biblical on bad associations spoil useful habits and another on just because everyone else does it doesnt mean you have to do it to, would you jump off a cliff just because other people do what were the sayings that bugged you?
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"The Boi-ble" or "The Boi-berr" instead of "the Bible". This was an attempt by those...uh.....grammatically challenged folks to "talk proper", or sound more educated.
"ones"...as in "such ONES", "erring ONES", "needy ONES". This one gets my goat in a particularly bad way, I don't know why.
"Similarly"
"Would not such time be better spent in spiritual activities?" or some such STUPID SHIT
"opposer"
"fleshly"
"male organ" and "birth canal".....UUURRRRGGHH!!!
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Convention Report
by Euphemism ini just got back from my convention yesterday evening.
i'll be trying to catch up on the posts as time allows, but there is a very large volume; so if i miss any personal replies, please forgive me.. this was my first convention since i became mentally free, and it was just painful to sit through.
i used to be one of those dubs who actually enjoyed conventions.
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razorMind
Your account was extremely well-written! I greatly enjoyed reading it. It must've been hard to listen to--your eardrums must be weeping pus.
I'd like to go to a district convention...just to be nosy and see what's going on...but I'm afraid I might suffer repeated bouts of projectile vomiting.
Thanks again for posting!
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My parents' extraordinary weirdness...Borg-induced, or just plain strange?
by razorMind inboth of them are dyed-in-the-wool, hardcore, faithful-to-the-end jw's.
my dad's an elder and has been for many years.. .
my sister and i cannot mull enough over the odd upbringing we had.
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I knew other JW parents who, though overbearing and strict as hell when it came to the opposite sex, STILL weren't as prudish as mine are.
Usually it was the father who was the dictator, but the daughters could at least still talk to the mom about pregnancy and female plumbing stuff.
Thanks so much for your honest opinion.....please keep the comments coming. They were both raised as JW's, but talk about reproductive matters was still way more free than with us. My Grandma (my mom's mom) talks quite freely and openly about those things and has a much more laid-back attitude about the opposite sex. I don't understand at all.
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My parents' extraordinary weirdness...Borg-induced, or just plain strange?
by razorMind inboth of them are dyed-in-the-wool, hardcore, faithful-to-the-end jw's.
my dad's an elder and has been for many years.. .
my sister and i cannot mull enough over the odd upbringing we had.
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Both of them are dyed-in-the-wool, hardcore, faithful-to-the-end JW's. My dad's an elder and has been for many years.
My sister and I cannot mull enough over the odd upbringing we had. We were raised, literally, as though we were not expected to ever reach womanhood. Things were unbelievably oppressive, repressive, etc. Sex was never, no NEVER, discussed---any TV show (we couldn't get cable, in fact only 2 or 3 channels period) that portrayed a glimmer of making out made my mom panicky, my dad extremely irritated.
And pray, don't let a woman be "in labor"...my mom would literally freak out, even leave the room if we didn't turn the channel. Now, we're talking the tame channels, back in the late 70's and 80's--not Discovery Health or TLC where they show all the gory stuff. Words like "butt" weren't allowed to be used...only "behind". My mother (much less my dad) quite literally, cannot handle discussions about menstrual periods, cramps, pregnancy-induced breast tenderness (I'm preggo, BTW). I have to consult my books, my sis or my in-laws about things like that. If I wasn't a voracious reader from birth, God knows where I'd have learned about sex.
Having non-platonic feelings for any male was considered bad. Even the ones "in da troof", you should've seen how they'd act when a guy friend would gather up enough nerve to venture over to our house. My dad would leave in a huff to go work on his tractor, while my mom looked as if she'd become physically ill. Both would give us the silent treatment for a while after the visit. The atmosphere on the day of my prom (never fear, I was with a "young brother") was funereal. Neither parent could look me in the eye or face.
Whenever we'd get a reprieve by going out-of-state to my auntie's, both parents would again be in bad moods and give us the silent treatment prior to our departure.
I guess it goes without saying that they learned through a fifth party of my marriage, and that I simply dashed off a brief, staccato, 2-line note in the mail informing them of their grandchild-to-be. Now I just don't bother. I don't have time. My friends and in-laws think I'm insane, but everyone in my hubby's family is ecstatic about the news--and I just CANNOT deal with the weirded-out reaction from them to news that should be joyful. Not that I'll be hurt, but that I'll be lividly ANGRY!!!
Nowadays, whenever I go "home"--which is very rarely--all I hear is constant bemoaning about how great things were when "we were little", and how much those times are missed.I generally gave up trying to explain these things to "outsiders"--I simply get stared at strangely or they mistakenly see it as "oh, you know how protective parents can be", or "oh, my folks were strict, too"......NOT!!!
I'm dying to hear someone else's perspective on this--my sister is the only other person who truly understands. Right now we're feeling like we're the only 2 individuals on earth with such a strange background.
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A lot of folks wouldn't be here today if their parents hadn't thrown a Barry White album/8-track onto the ol' turntable/tape deck.....
Mr. White will be sorely missed. :(
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Stereotypical ELDERS
by tazmaniac ina while back we had a fairly sucessful posting history on stereotypical witnesses.
how about stereotypical elders.
i will start the ball rolling with two:.
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Brother Bumble-N-Fumble:
This elder could probably be classified as a "Brother Ripe-For-The-Pickin'"...usually the least mentally adept. Usually treated like s--t by the entire body of elders. Basically the underdog/scapegoat of the elder's group. He always says the wrong thing at the wrong time, always screws things up (i.e. getting arrival/departure times wrong), always gives a wrong comment at the meetings, always the most tactless of the group. He usually can't be trusted with complex plans, instructions, etc. The other elders, especially those of lower status, treat him with condescending contempt. Brother Bumble-N-Fumble is usually so vapid/grateful to be an elder that he doesn't even notice. Or care, possibly.
Some of these previous posts will keep me snickering for DAYS...weeks, centuries even!!
"Bestriding through the congregation like a colossus".....ROFLM-FCKNG-AO!!!!!
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Stereotypical ELDERS
by tazmaniac ina while back we had a fairly sucessful posting history on stereotypical witnesses.
how about stereotypical elders.
i will start the ball rolling with two:.
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Brother "Down-Wit'-Da-Young-Peeps":
Usually a tad "younger" in age than the other elders; sometimes quite young. May be a bit less staid (dare I say, OPENMINDED?!?) than the others. Usually "knows of" the latest trends in clothes, music, etc. amongst the JW teens. "Understands" what they're "going through". It's usually safe for younger brothers to shoot hoops with and/or hang with this elder. Oftentimes this elder organizes "safe" events for the teen JW's.
This type of elder is usually called in to assist those JW teen delinquents who've gotten into trouble, or are being "rebellious" , etc. He's usually called on to do any type of Special Needs talks concerning young people. Make that ANY type of talk targeted at young people. And I forgot the ever-important Sex Talk, whenever the young brothers need to be so instructed.
This elder is fully aware of his influence on the "young ones", and likes to flaunt it whenever possible. Hilarity ensues when said elder makes a comment during the Watchtower study and uses outdated teen slang, or mentions cornily outdated teen trends to make a point. Even more hilarity when the other adult JW's nod their heads sagely, safe and secure in their knowledge that this elder truly "knows the young people." -
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(Post has been corrected!) Suppose you don't WANT a JW funeral?!?
by razorMind ini have been to a couple of funerals recently (both of relatives who've never been jw's; however married to jw spouses) and have been appalled, absolutely appalled at how the wishes of the deceased have been ignored and horned in on by jw drivel/dogma.. .
the most recent funeral was for a relative who didn't even believe in god (was never a jw), but the jw spiel droned on for so long that the deceased's own "worldly" siblings were glancing at their watches in disbelief.
one of the siblings had a speech at the funeral ceremony, and was very touching and heartfelt in talking about the deceased's life, but then a jw relative had a speaking part too, and lost everyone from that point on.
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Sentinel, thanks for answering!
I'm 32 and generally in good health; I was never baptized but raised by die-hard Elder dad and mom. I just drifted away; I haven't been to a meeting in almost 10 years. I don't consider myself a JW.
I don't know why this has been weighing so heavily on my mind. I just have some pretty strong feelings about this issue. I was so incensed after one funeral that I went home and typed up a funeral directive myself. (BTW, I want to be cremated too. I've already seen one instance where batty relatives who didn't even know the deceased were able to halt a cremation, totally against the deceased's wishes.)
My sister thought that something of this sort can be specified in one's will, is this true? Also, would seeking the services of an Attorney be astronomical in cost? I'm not rich (at ALL). How much money are we talking? Having an attorney assigned as Power of Attorney for my funeral sounds like something I'd seriously consider.
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(Post has been corrected!) Suppose you don't WANT a JW funeral?!?
by razorMind ini have been to a couple of funerals recently (both of relatives who've never been jw's; however married to jw spouses) and have been appalled, absolutely appalled at how the wishes of the deceased have been ignored and horned in on by jw drivel/dogma.. .
the most recent funeral was for a relative who didn't even believe in god (was never a jw), but the jw spiel droned on for so long that the deceased's own "worldly" siblings were glancing at their watches in disbelief.
one of the siblings had a speech at the funeral ceremony, and was very touching and heartfelt in talking about the deceased's life, but then a jw relative had a speaking part too, and lost everyone from that point on.
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razorMind
Okay, I've made the corrections...
Sorry for the confusion...thanks for your patience.
Returning now to your regularly scheduled program..................