Posts by razorMind

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A couple of questions about summer conventions (spinoff)

by razorMind in

being as i haven't been to a convention in years, i have a couple of questions:

do they still come out with that list of special-jw-rate hotels at the service meeting for the summer conventions?

also, i remember times when the list would be practically useless by the time my parents got home from that service meeting and started trying to make reservations.

razorMind

My biggest complaint is how you were labeled unfaithful if you did not use the rooming list.

Oh, yes, I remember this too. No wonder the list was obsolete by the time you got home from the Service Meeting.

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UnderWear

by LukeN in

i was just wondering does the society frown apon the type of underwear.

worn by men?

(ex, boxers,briefs etc) its just something thats been bothering me lately

razorMind

Underwear purchased at secondhand stores might be infested with DEEEMINNZZ!!!

You'll know this when you start hearing voices emanating from the crotch area.

BROTHERS AND SISTERS, BEWARE!!!

LOLOLOL

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Why do most dubyas feel it is necessary to get a new dress...

by Agent Smith in

or suit for the conventions and memorial?.

i have never understood this.

are they gonna hold a beauty pageant at the convention?

razorMind

thank you Elsewhere. You are exactly right. Its like mating season.

Some of the young ladies at the District Conventions would be so desperate to outdo each other and snag a brother that they'd wear PROM DRESSES. Not the long ones but the shorter ones, sometimes strapless.

Mind you, this was the 80's and one can just about imagine what they looked like. Sure, a short prom dress may not scream "FORMAL EVENT!!!" quite like a long one, but don't forget that these were the days of gold lame' paired with black lace paired with teal lame', all on one dress. Electric blue, fuschia, lime green lame' as well. Umm, just a tad inappropriate for a RELIGIOUS EVENT, much?

Sometimes you'd catch a couple trying to recycle bridesmaid's dresses this way, as well.

It really was mating season, and competition was FIERCE.

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The Biggest Scandal In Your Congregation

by Hunyadi in

i attended a notorious congregation as a child, the infamous winter gardens congregation!

my cousin and his best friend, both named joe, were elders, my cousin was the po and the other joe was a total loser suck up who wanted to be just like my cousin, joe.

what was even funnier, as i get off point a bit, is that "suck up" joe's wife, cathy, did everything she could do to get her pudgy lil self to dress, look, walk, and talk like my cousin joe's wife, clementine.

razorMind

Dang, our congregation scandals were pretty tame compared to the ones here.

Only one I can think of...

A teen girl in my old cong. started going with this older (non-JW) guy who was her substitute teacher, much to the horror of her extremely hard-core family. She made up her mind that she was going to be with this guy, come what may. Fights (real fights, her dad fought with his kids) ensued to the point where she moved out.

She decided to bring the guy to the Memorial with her, and one of the elders tackled him outside after it was over--they scuffled and had to be pulled apart. It was a big thing and subsequently, out in field service, all the "householders" were asking cong. members at their doors about the incident . Extremely small town, btw.

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Witnesses coming Saturday... I need HELP!!!!

by Globetrotter in

i got into a rather heated discussion this morning with my unbaptised but raised jehovah's witness wife.

we discussed so many things: feb 1 watchtower article on 607 and 1914, the un, beth sarim, blood, god's mouthpiece here on earth, etc.

this was yet another attempt on my part to try to plant a seed of doubt.

razorMind

I know with me I can only visit my relatives for no more than a week before I have to get outta there. It starts as only a minor nuisance but after awhile it becomes intolerable. If you are a householder you can always dismiss them if they come to your door. But if you are in the same household, you are a captive to their ideology, paranoia and pessimism. Conversations are often angled to reinforce their belief system. Life "in this system" can never be too good. Non JW's can never be fully trusted. Despite most things getting better in our world, JW's keep everything negative before them and blow it out of proportion. The cup is always half empty unless it pertains to the Society, kingdom hall or preaching. This dim world view can be stifling and the servitude robs enormous time and flexibility from relationships. As a non-believer, you are always regarded as a slacker, weak, proud, or materialistic to one degree or another.

YES.

This thread should be required reading for any normal "worldly" person, involved romantically with a Jehovah's Witness. They need to be informed and educated about this religion/cult before making any important decisions.

YES.

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UnderWear

by LukeN in

i was just wondering does the society frown apon the type of underwear.

worn by men?

(ex, boxers,briefs etc) its just something thats been bothering me lately

razorMind

Heed the "wise spiritual counsel".....

Brothers are discouraged from wearing colored underwear on stage during talks. Would it not be unwise to stumble others in the congregation?

White undies only, on stage!!!

Hee Hee Hee

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Why bother to even show up at all? (rant)

by razorMind in

jw
friends

i married a "worldly" gentleman.

my "approved associations" status is already up in the air--i am no longer "in the troof".

i was unbaptized and just drifted away.

razorMind

Why do so many of you act as if his behavorior is out of sync with what a jw does-

I'm not sure if you're talking about me, but it's not as if I'm surprised or shocked by their behavior. I just think the whole thing smacks of utter stupidity. And the whole incident was completely, incredibly rude. To visit a stranger's home for the first time, OF YOUR OWN VOLITION, and choose NOT to socialize with anyone there--as if it's YOUR house.

I was in a quandary at the very beginning, wondering if I should bother to send them an invitation or not. Looking back, I should not have.

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Had a good scriptural laugh

by seattleniceguy in

jw
friends

we all need a little help sometimes when it comes to getting by, and i've opened up my house a few times to people in need of a place to stay, for periods ranging from a day or two to a couple weeks.

last year, i put up one such individual, named vincent.

vincent showed up at the kh one evening in march, looking a little rough, cleary not a witness, but able to quote the new world translation with an incredible accuracy.

razorMind

!!!

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Witness World discussion about Demonic Influences

by DevonMcBride in

jw
friends

i just saw this on witness world web site and had a few laughs.

how many of you were this pathetic when you were a witness?

devon

razorMind

just keeping up with our studies, our meetings, etc. really fights the demonic influences.

There it is again.....the emphasis on merely putting in the hours for field service, meetings, etc.

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Witness parents?

by happysunshine in

do any of you have witness parents?

if so, how do you deal with them?

i'm not fealing really great about the way everything has turned out.

razorMind

I really don't care about them any more. I figure that if they can turn their backs on me for me making myself happy for once in my life, i can go through my own life with no regrets about not associating with them. It was not my choice for them to turn on me my conscience is clear.

yes--THIS HITS THE NAIL ON THE HEAD--TOTALLY AGREE

Most outsiders don't understand this view at all--but then, again, they couldn't possibly grasp what life is like in Dubdom.

My folks are straight-no-chaser, dyed-in-the-wool, hardcore JW's. They don't know my complete opinion about the WT, but have an idea since they've seen our Christmas tree blazing in our house.

I, too, tread lightly with my (very few) conversations with them. I know it bothers them that I hardly ever call, write, or visit--but then again they hardly make the effort either. The problem with the JW members of my immediate family is that they seem to be imploding from the inside. I am just about positive that my mother and youngest sister are severely depressed. They both need medical attention but my mother wouldn't dream of doing that (plus the decision is up to my dad) and my sister has too little money (result of working pittance jobs w/no health insurance) and little motivation to seek help.

The individual relationships among them have broken down and just deteriorate over time (my dad seems to wreak more and more iron control over my mom over the years; my mom's nerves are getting worse and worse as a result, to an alarming degree; in turn she treats my youngest sister like shit---she criticizes her appearance, shoots down her every utterance, gives her the silent treatment whenever my sister looks particularly bad on a given day; my sister in turn suffers bouts of depression after spending time with my mom)

I have adopted a pretty callous attitude about the whole matter.....then I find myself crying whenever I listen now to songs we grew up listening to as kids, and I have horrible dreams about my mother in which I'm always either killing her or causing her serious physical harm.

Now you see why I get sick of co-workers asking, "So when's the last time you went home? Are you going home for the holidays?"