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On 9-11-01 my mother called to make sure I was OK (they evacuated my building downtown after the attacks in NYC). She commented that she was worried about whether or not there were any "brothers & sisters who died." I waited a beat, then said, "What about the rest of the people who died?" "Oh, of course, them, too."

A while back an old JW friend who quit attending had a miscarriage and lots of people suggested that it was b/c she had married a "worldy" man. Puhleeese! Who are these crackpots?!

~reagan

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666

by ThiChi in

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everything you wanted to know about 666 but were afraid to ask!.

the number 666, first made famous by the book of revelation (chapter 13, verse 18), has also been studied by mathematicians because of its many interesting properties.

here is a compendium of mathematical facts about the number 666. most of the well-known "chestnuts" are included, but many are relatively new and have not been published elsewhere.

reagan_oconnor

So Armageddon came in 1998 and I missed it!

Does anyone remember from the 'Revelation' book the breakdown of what the numbers in the Bible signify? You know... 7 is holy, 6 is evil, etc.

I should do a search to see if I can find a breakdown from a degreed theologian (not a JW hack) on the significance of numbers in both the Old & New Testaments.

~Reagan

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"Updating" of JW Books

by reagan_oconnor in

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::i'm not 100% sure which forum to post this in, so if it needs to be moved, please feel free::

one thing i always questioned was why the jw literature was ever updated.

if the organization is 'directed by the holy spirit' then why did they need a new version of the 'scripture inspired' book?

reagan_oconnor

::I'm not 100% sure which forum to post this in, so if it needs to be moved, please feel free::

One thing I always questioned was why the JW literature was ever updated. If the Organization is 'directed by the Holy Spirit' then why did they need a new version of the 'Scripture Inspired' book? Why did they stop using the 'Truth' book and use the 'Paradise' book for studies? Where is all of the old old literature that they collected out of the KH libraries... 'Lamp Of God' etc.? I know the 'Aid' book was dumped because of good old Ray Franz (anyone know how he's doing?).

Secular books go through revisions constantly... third edtion, fourth edition, etc. But if the Organization is truly directed by Jehovah (gag), why do they have to keep updating? Why don't the really old books show up on the Watchtower CD-ROM?

What are they trying to hide?

~reagan

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I'm being DA by my family

by reagan_oconnor in

wow... it's been awhile since i've posted, there are a lot of new names here.

i just had to post on this.... i received a letter from my mother friday telling me that she and my father no longer wish to associate with my husband or me.

they will contact me in case of emergency but thats it.

reagan_oconnor

LDH! I missed ya! How's that baby of yours doing?

Thanks for the kind sentiments. It is hard, but I'm almost glad. I've pretty much decided I'm gonna hold 'em to it. No matter what they have said, this has been their decision. They will suffer the consequences. When I have kids, they won't see them. (If I'm not good enough for my parents, neither will my kids!) They're missing out on one great chica (and my husband is a kick-ass guy, too) and it's their loss.

Ahhh... feeling at home already!

~reagan

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I'm being DA by my family

by reagan_oconnor in

wow... it's been awhile since i've posted, there are a lot of new names here.

i just had to post on this.... i received a letter from my mother friday telling me that she and my father no longer wish to associate with my husband or me.

they will contact me in case of emergency but thats it.

reagan_oconnor

Thanks, guys. I'm dealing with it much better than I had anticipated. It's kind of like when you have a friend dying of cancer... it's so slow and painful, it gets to the point where you want them to be done with the misery. Yet it's still a shock when they die. I've been waiting for this for 5 years.

She included a printout from the society of a Questions from Readers article from a Watchtower in the 80s (not sure which one, didn't feel like reading it), something about "my son is married and hasn't been attending meetings, blah blah blah..." I told my husband that I'm almost 100% certain that something came out recently on associating with family members who aren't attending/"in good standing." I guess I was right!

~Just talked to my youngest sister, who thinks my mother is on a mental limb right now. I told K that no matter what my parents think, she is still my sister and I still love her and will be there for her. She told me she can't believe my mother is doing this. I think there's hope for K. I'm not going to push, if she wants to know I'll tell her.

~reagan

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I'm back! Got a letter from my mother...

by reagan_oconnor in

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haven't posted in a while... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=38164&site=3

reagan_oconnor

Angharad: Thanks!

out4good3: Absolutely. Par for the course. I didn't expect any more from them... and that's exactly what I got!

Tink: The only response I sent was a single-line e-mail: Please forward me the negatives from our wedding photos and advise if you require reimbursement. (She did the wedding photos when I married my husband 2 years ago). They think that they'll pull me back in just because it worked on my mother when my aunt did it to her 20+ years ago. My mother fails to realize that I am a strong, intelligent person who thinks for myself & doesn't let the BORG think for me.

Ah, I feel better now. Thanks guys! ~reagan

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If you can't beat em...

by Paradiselost in

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has anyone on the board ever joined a cong as an unknown apostate, gained a reputation, and then tried to show certain members the errors in their ways.  i'm in a sitation that makes the following hypothetical possible.  should i do it...has anyone attemted it?  thoughts?

reagan_oconnor

I already wasted enough of my life in a Kingdom Hall. I wont even go into one for a wedding or memorial.

Amen. My sister will probably be getting married in the next year or so to a pedophile JW, and you can bet yer ass I won't be there.

~Reagan

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I'm back! Got a letter from my mother...

by reagan_oconnor in

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haven't posted in a while... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=38164&site=3

reagan_oconnor

Haven't posted in a while... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=38164&site=3

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I'm being DA by my family

by reagan_oconnor in

wow... it's been awhile since i've posted, there are a lot of new names here.

i just had to post on this.... i received a letter from my mother friday telling me that she and my father no longer wish to associate with my husband or me.

they will contact me in case of emergency but thats it.

reagan_oconnor

Wow... It's been awhile since I've posted, there are a lot of new names here. I just had to post on this...

I received a letter from my mother Friday telling me that she and my father no longer wish to associate with my husband or me. They will contact me in case of emergency but thats it. I don't know if this means that they will be "reading my name from the platform" or what, but I really don't care. Sending a letter to the elders, etc. (my Dad is the P.O. of their Cong) would indicate that I think their beliefs and practices are substantiated. Which I don't. I just don't recognize them as anything but a cult. Period.

I was raised as a JW for the first 20 years of my life. Baptized at 14, DFed at 18 and reinstated at 20, I walked away from the Organization and divorced my JW ex-husband. I became a Christian, met my husband and have been actively celebrating holidays since. After about five years of hot and cold, my parents have elected to take a stand for their beliefs and disassociate themselves from me. They, of course, tell me that this has been my decision (I dont think theyve ever taken responsibility for themselves in anything) that I have forced their hand.

Their faith is so fragile that they could be swayed in their beliefs by merely associating with someone who has a different viewpoint. Makes you wonder if their conviction could be so easily broken, maybe there isnt much substance to it? Anyone who tells you that the JWs arent a cult is either (a.) smack-dab in the middle of it and a blind believer or (b.) ignorant of cults and clueless as to what cult mentality is.

Thank God for Ray Franz. "Crisis of Conscience" and "In Search of Christian Freedom" have helped me immensely in my struggle to break free from the JWs and their emotional blackmail. I am happier and more satisfied in my life than I have ever been. Although this was a shock, and it makes me very angry, I've been expecting it. I'm almost glad that it's finally over with, that I won't need to deal with them & their "beliefs" when we have kids, etc.

Cheers ~ reagan

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