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  Smoking and apostates

  by Elsewhere in

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  mrmoe got me thinking... is it just me, or does a disproportionate number of apostates smoke?.

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  "as every one knows, there are mistakes in the bible" - the watchtower, april 15, 1928, p. 126 .

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  rebelledat12

  Well, I smoked while being raised as a witness, from 11 to age 23.
  I quit a year and a half ago, after my father-in-law died of lung cancer.
  It definitely started as a rebellious thing, then I was ADDICTED!
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  better or worse off?

  by SPAZnik in

  1. jw
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  are u a better person by leaving the borg.... if so how so.

  what's the single biggest.

  self-improvement/change you've made.... that leaving was a catalyst for?

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  I am definitely better off.
  Every aspect of my life... better with the the cold shadow of the society long gone.
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  The Watchtower's 'Lost Generation'

  by metatron in

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  i visited some relatives in my extended family and found exactly.

  the same situation as elsewhere in witness congregations.. the next generation of witnesses isn't there.. a friend of mine, who still goes to some meetings, made the.

  same observation independently.

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  rebelledat12

  Yeah, I definitely think that JW should spend more time studying the bible with their kids. Yep, then there wouldn't be ANY kids that make it past the teen years in the "truth". Please, my parents crammed that crap down my throat for hours a week and let me tell you, I turned out WILD. I'm surprised that I'm even alive today. It wasn't until I was about 20 that I started to calm down. After the constricting hold of the jws, I couldn't rebel enough. So in my opinion, it's not Satan that had his hold on me, it was the witnesses. There were three kids in my family and only one is still a witness.
  And if you ask me, my window washing kiss-ass brother is the worst of us three. He uses profanity, lies, borrowed money from my df mother and sold my sister a car that didn't even run and now he won't give her the money back. When my mom confronted him about the money, he decided to enforce the jw rule of shunning, after making off with almost two thousand dollars of my sister's money.
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  More JW urban legends

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well here is a new batch of jw urban legends (oops, i mean experiences) i just got in the e mail.

  thought i would share the joy and lighten your day ;-).

  a sister took her granddaughter to the circuit assembly with her.. later that evening at home, the sister told her granddaughter to get .

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  rebelledat12

  JWs also take situations and turn them into something they are not. When I was in 8th grade, another JW girl was in my grade also. One day, I saw her give my best friend a recent copy of the Watchtower. Of course, I was "out" by that time so I asked my friend what the exchange was all about. She told me that the JW girl wouldn't leave her alone, so she finally took the magazine. She didn't want to be mean, so she chucked it in the trash and avoided her for the next three weeks.
  Imagine my suprise when I see the same JW girl on the stage at the next assembly relating the "experience" of placing the magazine with my friend.
  I totally knew who she was talking about, because she described my friend (who was pregnant, sadly enough). I asked her about it, and she refused to tell me who it was about, but I told her I knew that it was about my friend.
  I told my friend when I got home and she snapped. That girl lied about the whole thing and witnesses were congratulating her and everything.
  Just to ensure that you don't think THIS is an urban legend,
  my friend's name was Tia Townsend
  the JW's name was Sarah Graffeo
  It was 1992 and we went to school at Oak Street Middle School in Burlington, IA.
  The assembly was held in Janesville, WI.
  Peace.
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  BEATING KIDS IN THE WASHROOM

  by Rags in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am 36 yr old female originally from toronto ontario canada.

  was raised jw till i was about 14. has anyone else had this happen in their hall?

  the mom's (thank god never mine!

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  Yes, I was one of those kids. Spanked at the KH and at home. Up to the age of 13, until my mother slapped me. I told her if she hit me again I was going to hit her back...
  My dad, in accordance with advice from the elders, whittled a handle in a 2X4. That really hurt. My brother and I used to hide it so we'd get the leather belt instead, it hurt less.
  My "crimes" worthy of corporal punishment? Fidgeting, sleeping or drawing at the KH. How humiliating, everyone knew what was being done to you, and you come back crying or with red eyes. Get the shit beaten out of you and your parent says "stop crying, right now or do I have to spank you again?"
  Just thinking about it has me bawling, so allow me to vent.
  I hate the witnesses.
  Hate them, hate them, hate them.
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  Are we religiously intolerant?

  by Sirona in

  1. jw
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  we are always pointing out the flaws of the jw religion.

  does this make us intolerant of the religious beliefs of others?

  where do you draw the line?.

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  An adult has every right to practice their own religion. The problem with JWs is that they demand their children believe as they believe. When the child makes it clear that they don't believe, the parents and congregation force the child to attend meetings, listen to doctrine, etc. The elders meet with the child and say hurtful and demeaning things designed to guilt trip the child into retracting statements of non-belief. They try scare tactics, they say that you aren't tough enough, that you just want to be a member of the world because it's easier - among other degrading comments too numerous to mention. And if all that doesn't work, they shun you self rightously. (I know, it happened to me.)
  If this was the Catholic religion doing the above-mentioned things, the witnesses would applaud the child for standing firm in their beliefs.
  Doesn't the freedom of religion extend to everyone regardless of age or circumstance?
  This is just one example of a double standard that exists in the organization.
  I am not intolerant of adults chosing to practice their own religion. I am bothered by and tend to "hate" an ORGANIZATION that approves of gestapo tacts to scare children into becoming "believers".
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  How Do You Deal With Telemarketers?

  by Outaservice in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jw's at your door are a nuisance, but so are telemarketers on the phone.

  how do you deal with them?.

  i sometimes say, "i'm very interested in what you have to say, but excuse me for just a minute, i have to go to the bathroom.".

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  "Any telemarketer pulling this shit nowadays would be in big trouble"

  You would be surprised at what you can get away with, there is no way to trace a call to a particular representative, and to be honest, no one cares about the people who are going to say no anyway. There's always the chance that quality assurance may be looking, but there's a ratio of about 1 QA to 115 Reps where I worked. Plus, most of them were just recently promoted reps anyway. People do this ALL the time, my friend works at a "telephone factory" right now. It's a huge party atmosphere.
  The best thing to do is consistantly and kindly ask to be taken off the calling list and get the address for the place in NY and send a letter. It might take some time, but it's the only way to really get rid of telemarketers.
  It's also good to know the privacy policy of companies that you do business with, for example, your phone company or credit card company may sell lists of their customers.
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  How Do You Deal With Telemarketers?

  by Outaservice in

  1. jw
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  jw's at your door are a nuisance, but so are telemarketers on the phone.

  how do you deal with them?.

  i sometimes say, "i'm very interested in what you have to say, but excuse me for just a minute, i have to go to the bathroom.".

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  Tell them to put you on their "do-not-call" list and/or ask for the address in NY to write to be taken off ALL lists.
  whatever you do, if you seriously don't want to be called again, don't piss the telemarketer off.
  I used to do it for a couple of years and if someone did any of the above stuff, i'd reschedule them for daily callbacks.
  It might make you feel better, but you'll end up paying for it... trust me.
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  What did/do you most look fwd to?

  by SPAZnik in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  after 29 years of bondage.... i'm loving living it up.. and wondering.... when you first left,.

  what things did you most look forward to doing.

  or, for that matter, what things do u still look forward to?.

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  rebelledat12

  No pantyhose or frumpy dress clothes.
  No meetings.
  Being able to smoke weed in my own house whenever I wanted to!
  No "holier-than-thou" stuck up witnesses
  LOUD RAUNCHY MUSIC
  my five tattoos - even my JW dad is jealous of that,
  dating (and eventually marrying) a BAD BOY with a motorcycle, of course we lived together (SEX) for a year first.
  Cursing like a sailor without looking over my shoulder first.
  and much more...
  THANK GOD FOR FREEDOM
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  Losing my Religion......

  by flower in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well at 29 years old, after a lifelong relationship/belief in/association with a higher power i called god, here i am very close to taking an athiestic or agnostic approach to the rest of my life.

  it really hit me the other day although my doubts have been there but i just have been forcing myself to ignore them because i was afraid to give up that religious part of me because its all that i have ever been and i was afraid of the unknown.

  but i realized after getting through another one of those weeks from hell that it makes no difference how much i pray or how much i believe.

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  rebelledat12

  Hi, I just wanted to let you know that you are not alone in your thinking. I remember asking god for a sign, any sign that he cared about me and to prove that he was real. I waited and waited and still, no sign. I was disgusted and wondered if the JWs sapped all my spirituality. (Which, of course they did, but not completely). Then I realized that I was trying too hard and forcing the issue. JWs have to present God as a neatly tied package that can be picked apart and explained. It's not that easy. I've never gotten the sign that I prayed for, but at times I feel an incredible sense of peace. It's a kind of knowing, that I am not alone. I don't understand it all the time, but I do believe in a higher power, and the spirit that is in all of us.
  You have to find your own way, and your own answers. Try to stop obsessing over it for a little while, and maybe your answer will come to you.
  I wish you joy and peace in these confusing times.
  Jessi