Posts by Reborn2002

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My Mum, Demons, The Watchtower & MGM

by Duncan in

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a couple of years ago, on the old h2o, i posted something called my demon story which told a story, back in the seventies, of a supposed demon attack on a family known to me.

the point of the story was in fact that the only demons involved were self-supplied from this particular sisters hysterical, over-active imagination.. during the course of that story, i said.

i dont think even at my most faithful and zealous that i ever took the demon stories seriously.

Reborn2002

This topic reminds me of scare tactic stories I was told as a child to avoid specific things and undoubtedly to rein in any stragglers on the fringe.

One Circuit Overseer in our south Chicagoland region by the name of Br. McGee in the early 1990's even told a few stories of a toddler-age child being strangled by her own pajamas, Bibles being strewn around a room aflame and ceasing when the name of Jehovah was uttered, and of attacks on children by Smurfs to try to demonstrate the seriousness of the times.

I look back on it now and laugh.

Anyone else have stories to relate? This could get very interesting.

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my cousin's brother sends a card...grrrrr

by Mulan in

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my cousin, sharon, who died in september.......was disfellowshipped three years ago.

her brother is still a witness, and wrote a thank you card to an elder in the congregation here.

this elder and his wife came to visit sharon a few days before she died, and before she started to lose her ability to make sense when she talked.

Reborn2002

Mulan, my heart goes out to you. Even in death they insult others to uphold their self-righteous ideals.

Denial is a very powerful force, it afflicts well over 6 million people daily. :P

They HAVE to find an excuse for why someone left "The Organization" For someone possessing a "rational mind" to leave and to hold their moral principles and leave only because they do not believe the doctrine or practices buried deep within the Society... it would completely absolve all that they are fighting for.

I was an outgoing, loving person in my congregation, and like the examples I have read on this site, silentlambs for example.. he left because of what was WRONG with the organization that is allegedly inspired by God through the FDS. Yet, they undoubtedly murmur to one another and instruct the Rank&File that such ones are Apostates and leave because they do not love God. Its a sickening scenario, but unfortunately it is all too real.

I encourage you to write the letter. For you to consciously hide your emotions in this matter would be a crime within itself.

The true Kingdom of God is located in your heart, not an organization of hypocrites.

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Going Down Without Guilt.

by Englishman in

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lots of posts lately about oral sex.

natural or perverted?

normal or disgusting stuff?

Reborn2002

ROFLMMFAO (For those that cant decipher the acronym, too bad)

I have to agree with Flower, this is DEFINITELY an Adult-Oriented Discussion. Alas, some of these posts are nothing short of hysterical.

Since Ive been freed from the horrific chains to the entity referred to as The Borg, my motto to the ladies.. "NO HEAD, NO BED"

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and practice. It really is a matter of personal conscience between loving partners to determine what is or is not acceptable as a display of affection or intimacy. Mindchild is also correct, it usually is a matter of culture and upbringing. But damn! LOL "Bathroom instrument"??? That has to be one of the funniest Elder stories I have ever heard.

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I Went To The KH Yesterday Afternoon

by TheRecordCollector in

i went to the kh yesterday afternoon.

i met a friend there that i haven't seen in a while.

she and her husband used to be regulars there until her husband died, then she moved back to california to live with her daughter.

Reborn2002

TRC.. I have to agree with Valis.

Weve talked in the chat and Ive read your posts about your feelings... why do you torture yourself? You claim you are extremely lonely and sad at times, yet you submit yourself to such lunacy? Were you bored or something? From your post here obviously you see the hypocrisy and foolishness of the meeting, but you went anyway? I dont see the reason in that.

Care to elaborate?

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Worried about my Dad in hospital :(

by Simon in

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we visited angharad's parents at the weekend and got a call on sunday night from her sister who'd been called by my sister as they hadn't been able to contact us .... the message was not a happy one:.

my dad has had a heart attack and was in intensive care in hospital.. it was a while before i managed to speak to anyone over there with people probably out but i eventually spoke to his wife who says he's doing ok and has now been moved to the main ward but is being kept in as you would expect.

he may have to be moved to calgary for some investigation / tests.. he had heart surgery about 15 years ago and i think 4 of his 5 bypasses have failed so he has to take quite a bit of medicine for pain and stuff.

Reborn2002

I think its safe to say you are in our prayers. Keep us posted on his condition. Dealing with a sick parent is a heartwrenching torture.

The true Kingdom of God is located in your heart, not an organization of hypocrites.

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Practice of JW concerning Facial Hair

by Reborn2002 in

im relatively new to the board, but i wanted other people's opinions.. growing up in "the organization" i pretty much blindly adhered to all instruction as a teenager.. as i got a little older, as most here im sure, i began to see how some practices were imposed on the flock without any biblical backing.. one that bugged the living hell out of me was the restriction of being allowed to grow facial hair.. i was literally removed from carrying the mics and reading at bookstudy because my sideburns were too long and i wanted to grow a goatee, hence i often showed up with stubble.

i was taken to the back room and told i was being "too worldly.

" when i questioned the elders why it was unallowed by the society and that i wanted scriptural evidence and backing for their imposed regulations, i was scoffed at and told i should do as i am told.. i told them where they could stick their "priviledges" .

Reborn2002

Im relatively new to the board, but I wanted other people's opinions.

Growing up in "The Organization" I pretty much blindly adhered to all instruction as a teenager.

As I got a little older, as most here Im sure, I began to see how some practices were imposed on the flock without any Biblical backing.

One that bugged the living hell out of me was the restriction of being allowed to grow facial hair.

I was literally removed from carrying the mics and reading at BookStudy because my sideburns were too long and I wanted to grow a goatee, hence I often showed up with stubble.

I was taken to the back room and told I was being "too worldly." When I questioned the Elders why it was unallowed by the Society and that I wanted Scriptural evidence and backing for their imposed regulations, I was scoffed at and told I should do as I am told.

I told them where they could stick their "priviledges"

Any similar experiences of comments?

The true Kingdom of God is located in your heart, not an organization of hypocrites.

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NEWS FLASH!

by moman in

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news flash!.

a worldwide phenomenon haz caused great concern among top aviarists.

the massing of unusually large populations of birds haz bird watchers everywhere puzzled.

Reborn2002

AMEN.. I remember it distinctly too.. I was 12 or 13 when we were studying that book.. and thats EXACTLY how it was portrayed here too.

The true Kingdom of God is located in your heart, not an organization of hypocrites.

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What a View

by ThiChi in

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this is really a sight to behold!

scroll to the right.

"the image is a panoramic view of the world from the new space station.

Reborn2002

Japan IS in there. Look directly to the right of China for the extremely illuminated island.. which is Japan.

Someone need to brush up on their Geography? (smile) ;)

The true Kingdom of God is located in your heart, not an organization of hypocrites.

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GRRRRRRR.......People!!!

by sleepy in

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do you ever feel like that?.

i,ve just attended my own funeral, well it might as well have been .. i'm now nonexistant in my former friends eyes.. they have to stay away , i'm a danger to them.. so i can now count on one hand how many friends i have 2 , including my wife.. the other friend has also left the truth but i dont see him much as he lives in another town .. so since i work on my own i'm going to be pretty lonely for a while .. no more weekends down the pub or staying down anyones house.. i wonder whats on telly.. er nothing..oh crap.. well there always next door cat i wonder if hes good at conversation..here kitty , kitty.

Reborn2002

I can relate to each of you. I think one of the main reasons we flock to this board is for solace.. and when we relay our own personal stories we discover that despite differences in locale, culture, or language.. we have the same struggle.

JW love is conditional. It directly correlates to the number of hours in field service, meeting attendance, and willingness to submit to all ideas without questioning their biblical relevance or accuracy.

I was raised in the organization, and attended the same congregation for 18 years.

As long as I was a minor and did as I was told without questioning it, all was well. As soon as I got older and began to question accuracy, ideals.. and the elders right to determine the length of my sideburns (no joke).. its almost humorous how they quickly cooled off in having any affiliation with me.

You are taught to follow blindly the organization, and not question it even if it is obvious to any analytical mind that serious problems are apparent. My grandfather died in 1999... wanna guess how many Witnesses I GREW UP with over an 18 yr period wanted to spend time with me or even call to see how Im doing? (I live about 5 blocks from the Kingdom Hall by the way)

NONE.

The only attention I received was the Elders coming by UNANNOUNCED (very rude if you ask me) to subtly chastise me and read me Scriptures about how I need to get on the ball.

My philosophy now? FUCK EM.

Life is too short, you dont need the hassle in your life. Its hard to make friends among worldly people when you were conditioned to avoid them in your developmental stages of childhood and adolescence. Dont trust anybody, rely on yourself.. and in due time youll find yourself much happier and relieved to be free.

The true Kingdom of God is located in your heart, not an organization of hypocrites.

www.geocities.com/latinloverchicago/Jason1.html for my new webpage and info!! Im trying to live now!!

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NEWS FLASH!

by moman in

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friends

news flash!.

a worldwide phenomenon haz caused great concern among top aviarists.

the massing of unusually large populations of birds haz bird watchers everywhere puzzled.

Reborn2002

Thats funny. For the 20 years I grew up in "The Organization" I too was guilty by virtue of brainwashing to look at the large crows and make such comments about feasting on dead bodies. Ironic that the Witnesses make such grandiose claims to be the most loving people in the world, yet amongst one another make some of the most morbid and disgusting comments a person could conceive.

Just my 2c.

The true Kingdom of God is located in your heart, not an organization of hypocrites.

www.geocities.com/latinloverchicago/Jason1.html for my new webpage and info!! Im trying to live now!!