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shepherdless
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Intro... Back after a long non-lurking hiatus
by jwundubbed ini hope this is the right place to put this.
so, i joined this site a while ago because i was looking for conversation and to help people.
i think at the time i actually needed to be around the kinds of people that i had grown up with as well.
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Finland Knife attack: 2 dead, one of them a Jehovah's Witness
by ILoveTTATT2 intwo people dead and 7 injured in what is apparently a terrorist attack in finland.
one of the deceased was a jehovah´s witness woman who was preaching in the square.. where was jehovah protecting her?
especially considering she was preaching?https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/finnish-police-stabbing-investigated-as-possible-terrorism/2017/08/19/187a034e-84b8-11e7-9e7a-20fa8d7a0db6_story.html?utm_term=.f596f9250d70.
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shepherdless
Actually I was speaking a bit tongue-in-cheek.
Okay. I thought you were being serious.
Just to give my own perspective, I am not totally against guns. In Aust, particularly on farms, they are often a necessary tool. However, to get a licence to own one, you need to satisfy a test and have a reason to need one. Also the types of guns are restricted, so that most people can't own a pistol or semi-automatic, for example. Ammunition can't be bought without a licence, and gun safes are mandatory.
There are some guns on the black market, but overall gun deaths in Australia (apart from suicides) are very rare, despite there still being a reasonable number of legally owned guns in circulation. I think it is partly because anyone with any sort of violent criminal record can't get a licence, and partly because even when laws were at their most lenient, there were never many pistols in circulation. (Relevant because, statistically, pistols are by far the biggest killer in USA.)
Sorry to derail the thread.
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Finland Knife attack: 2 dead, one of them a Jehovah's Witness
by ILoveTTATT2 intwo people dead and 7 injured in what is apparently a terrorist attack in finland.
one of the deceased was a jehovah´s witness woman who was preaching in the square.. where was jehovah protecting her?
especially considering she was preaching?https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/finnish-police-stabbing-investigated-as-possible-terrorism/2017/08/19/187a034e-84b8-11e7-9e7a-20fa8d7a0db6_story.html?utm_term=.f596f9250d70.
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shepherdless
What Finland needs is a gun culture like the U.S.
Given the ridiculous gun death rates in USA, I don't think too many outside of USA are interested in that "gun culture".
Recently there was a shooting here of two people, one the gunman himself. He was apparently getting started when a college student with a concealed weapons permit drew his own gun. When the gunman saw the other guy was armed, he turned the gun on himself...a fact that the media didn't include.
Sounds like b.s. No link. No verifiable details. In any event, how can you possibly know this is a true story if it is "... a fact that the media didn't include"?
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shepherdless
I always found Shiite cleric hats amusing; like giant marshmallows:
But if they are anti-american, then the white marshmallow turns black, as if influenced by Hollywood:
Nothing beats those Orthodox bishops, though, in the silly hat competition:
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The "Jesus is Michael" teaching soon to go?
by Island Man incould the teaching that jesus is michael the archangel, be soon to be discarded?
first of all, watchtower is big on image and this is one of those teachings that paint the jw religion as being rather kooky and heretical.
secondly, this teaching is not an original watchtower teaching but one they inherited from their second adventist ancestry.
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shepherdless
Just an anecdote in support of Island Man.
Until my wife became a "return to Jehovah", I thought JWism was just another quaint fundamentalist Christian religion. When I heard the "Jesus is Michael" thing, it definitely made me think that JWs were just a bunch of silly nutters. This was well before the ARC, and before I had stumbled on sites such as this, or found out the bOrg was a cult.
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JWs biggest problem is not doctrinal issues
by Chook init's biggest problems are associated with its lack of genuine love and concern for the rank& file.
the average person doesn't need a food critic to tell them their hamburger is shit, in the same manner the average person can discern kindness and love.
gbs fake love and concern is evident in the way head office deals with victims of sexual abuse by jw clergy.
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shepherdless
Looks like you are right, joe134cd. I read the wrong numbers somewhere.
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JWs biggest problem is not doctrinal issues
by Chook init's biggest problems are associated with its lack of genuine love and concern for the rank& file.
the average person doesn't need a food critic to tell them their hamburger is shit, in the same manner the average person can discern kindness and love.
gbs fake love and concern is evident in the way head office deals with victims of sexual abuse by jw clergy.
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shepherdless
JWs biggest problem is not doctrinal issues
Absolutely!
if you compare ex-JW reddit to ex-Mormon reddit and ex-sda reddit, you will notice that ex-JW reddit has nearly TEN times the number of subscribers as the other two COMBINED.
Why? Well each religion has dubious hidden history, and each religion has flawed theological doctrines that are unbiblical and wrong on close examination. I what makes JWs stand out is the appalling way it treats its adherents. Mormons and SDA do shun, but as far as I can make out, the shunning is not as regimented, absolute or enforced. SDA have also ceased excommunicating people about 20 years ago. Also, neither Mormons nor SDA kill adherents with arbitrary rules about permissible medical procedures. Mormons and SDA encourage education. And from memory, stats from the Aust Royal Commission, child abuse rates are half the rate, or lower, in the other 2 religions. What I am trying to point out is that those other two religions do make an effort to look after their adherents. The bOrg on the other hand has a history and culture of treating its adherents like dirt.
I suspect that 95% of the reason sites like this exist is because of the way the bOrg treats people, not the bOrg's flawed theology.
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shepherdless
As I remember it, Rosebud was the name written on the side of the sled (ie the name of a favourite toy) that Kane used to play on before he was sent away from his parents.
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So how did JF Rutherford function...?
by HowTheBibleWasCreated inevery picture i have seen at him at beth shirim and other private places are with a bottle of alcohol.. while for me personally i couldn't care less anymore.... for jw's this is low moral character.
so i'm an going to guess he was a functioning alcoholic... how did that work with his closest workers?
was he gay too?
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shepherdless
Some details on Rutherford personal life and personal behavior are set out in the old threads below:
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/154191/rutherford-exposed-story-berta-bonnie-redux
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/239384/rutherfords-smear-campaign-must-read
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I think it's possible for a change of trend in JW growth
by Chook injust like after decades of memorial partakers declining and now reversed.
this information age might reverse the trend of jw membership.
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shepherdless
I am looking forward to seeing the published numbers this year. I expect to see either zero growth or negative 1% for virtually every European country, USA, Canada, Aust, NZ, etc. This may seem unremarkable now, but even 2 years ago, it would have sounded overly optimistic (or pessimistic depending on your p.o.v.).
They will probably still get growth in Latin America, sub-Saharan Africa, Phlippines etc, unfortunately. It will be interesting to see how much.