Posts by FayeDunaway

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Article in Australian newspaper regarding jw shunning and charity

by umbertoecho in

this may have been posted before.

however, if you want to read the article about jw shunning and denial of this practice, then have a read.

there is mention of redefining "charity" in terms of how that operates.. http://www.smh.com.au/national/jehovahs-witnesses-a-cruel-cult-20130315-2g5x3.html.

FayeDunaway

Well they don't officially call it shunning, they officially call it disfellowshipping, which is of course the same as shunning. But following the 'letter' of the law as they do, and not the spirit of the law, 'shunning' is a myth. I'd like to hear him say 'disfellowshipping is a myth.'

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How did you feel after..

by zeb in

jw
friends

..you had been away from the wt for a time.

i saw a quote tonight and it leapt off the page for me.. "now i know what it feels like to be part of a circle of friends, part of a group.

its a very different feeling than i have had before and it feels wonderful and right'.. spoken by a lady after being released of her heart "wall" that she had established for protection.. + comments please if you like.

FayeDunaway

I always wanted to live in a place like stars hollow in Gilmore girls, where there is a real sense of community. Funny thing is, I was there all the time, just never realized it because I was a witness and isolated from most people and activities. So after I left, I've joined lots of causes and groups and my church, and seriously now I can't go to a fair or event without knowing people everywhere I look--and i love it!! Also when talking to people there is no invisible wall between me and them, that 'oh, they're worldly!' wall that kept me from opening up and being genuinely warm to non JW's.

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This is a topic I am going to kill with my opening post.Why haven`t the Major religions of Christendom exposed J.W.`s as the true Apostates

by smiddy in

i am initially thinking of the major religious institutions of christianity , catholic ,many branches , church of england , and the major protestant religions , too numerous to mention here.. after all their is 40,000 plus christian religions in the world today ?so obviously j.w.`s are not the only false religion .. so my real question is really , to do with the mainstream christian religions , why are`nt they more aggressive in their condemnation of the jehovah witness religion for their obvious failings ,flip backs ,contradictions ,prophecy`s that never eventuated , end of the world predictions ,re-inventing their past history , even distancing themselves from their past history , and their founding members , such as c.t.russell and j.f.rutherford whose policies they now reject... they need to get on board and bleed it for all it`s worth .. smiddy .

FayeDunaway

Vidiot I think most cults are delusional that way.

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I had breakfast with 50+ JWs on Sunday

by zimunzucz in

jw
friends

we pulled into a hotel parking lot saturday around 6pm on the return leg of a wonderful family vacation to new england - an then fate stepped in---a man in a suit got out of a car with the rest of a picture perfect family.

i immediately noticed all the name tags--- and my blood pressure spiked 50pts- damn!!

i was booked in a 4 story hotel full of jws-- the only time they took off the name tags was in the swimming pool- they were so proud of themselves.. at 6:30 am the hot water went cold in the wife's shower- what do you expect on the 4th floor when a herd of jws is trying to get ready at the same time?

FayeDunaway

Thanks for the correction oppostate!

Cojones :). I will not forget! Unless I want to tell someone they have some very big boxes. Then I will use cajones. :)

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No end to JW logic, Oranges can make you gay

by James Mixon in

i was told that today by a jw...no more to say.

FayeDunaway

Well, WITHOUT oranges, or any citrus, you can get scurvy...Which is characterized by terrible diarrhea, and NOBODY, gay or not, is thinking about sex when they have diarrhea.

Coincidence?

Oranges=no diarrhea=sexual desire=possible gay sexual desire

no oranges=diarrhea=No sexual desire=no possible gay sexual desire

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I had breakfast with 50+ JWs on Sunday

by zimunzucz in

jw
friends

we pulled into a hotel parking lot saturday around 6pm on the return leg of a wonderful family vacation to new england - an then fate stepped in---a man in a suit got out of a car with the rest of a picture perfect family.

i immediately noticed all the name tags--- and my blood pressure spiked 50pts- damn!!

i was booked in a 4 story hotel full of jws-- the only time they took off the name tags was in the swimming pool- they were so proud of themselves.. at 6:30 am the hot water went cold in the wife's shower- what do you expect on the 4th floor when a herd of jws is trying to get ready at the same time?

FayeDunaway

You have got some serious cajones.

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Are atheists more likely to be morally good than Christians?

by FusionTheism in

i have no problem saying atheists and christians are equal.. but some people seem to have the belief that atheists are more likely to be morally good, or more likely to change the world for good, than christians and theists.. but what evidence do you have to support this claim?.

if atheism is what causes people to do great positive things for the world, then why weren't martin luther king, jr., william wilberforce, isaac newton, francis collins, barack obama, mother theresa, abraham lincoln, or john f. kennedy atheists?.

FayeDunaway

I do believe in the transformative nature of the Holy Spirit, I know it has transformed me. When I was a witness and before this transformation I was susceptible to doing really stupid, selfish, angry stuff. I still had deep compassion for suffering though, and tried to alleviate it when I could. Now that I'm not a witness, I actively try to improve the world, it's awesome to have the freedom to do that. But I also feel i could not make the same mistakes I used to. I feel that the Holy Spirit keeps me from it. I know this is considered hoo-hah by most people here, but I am speaking openly.

I strongly believe there are extremely good atheist people. Give their numbers time to grow and they will be impacting the world more in very positive ways, and I think self reliance is a positive force for improving the environment etc., instead of counting on God to 'fix the mess' someday.

But I also know that I'm a better person than I was before, and I attribute this to the Holy Spirit. I believe most people are good, whether believers or not. A believer is not in essence a better person than a nonbeliever. All I can say is, I needed the Holy Spirit, I received it, and am thankful for it.

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Exposing one's identity. When?

by kairos in

jw
friends

i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.

( "reaching out", so to speak ).

i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.

FayeDunaway

That's a really fugly sign, made much worse by the blue logo.

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Watchtower now Proudly Promoting the DIVINE Jesus

by FusionTheism in

the revised nwt has a footnote on john 1:1 showing that "a god" means "divine.".

also, their other publications are now much more boldly referring to jesus as divine:.

jesus--the way, the life, the truth (2015), page 306-307:.

FayeDunaway

But that does seem to be a new version of interpreting the Thomas exclamation 'my lord and my God!' Didn't they always used to say he looked at jesus when he said 'my lord' and looked to the heavens as he said 'my God'? I always thought that was as silly as their interpretation of 'you are Peter and upon this rock I will build my congregation.' They would say he pointed to himself as he said 'this rock.' Or the comma they put in 'truly I say to you today you will be with me in paradise.'

I alwaus had doubts about their interpretations, ridiculous insertions and assumptions about certain scriptures, but used to shrug them off one at a time. When you think about them cumulatively it's like good GRAVY why did I let these fools control my life.

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Interview with an Apostate: Muddy Waters

by Muddy Waters in

were you a born in or a convert?.

i began studying with a pioneer sister when i was 20 years old, my life had just gone to total sh*t (my husband had recently left me, was all alone with our young babies, and was very depressed).

"the truth" sounded so wonderful, the jws were so helpful, kind and supportive.

FayeDunaway

I am surprised about these assembly men telling people to change their stories. But then, that's the way many things are in that religion, hurt individual people for the 'greater good.' They didn't care if you were treated as a liar by people who knew you better, as long as you made them look good and were 'encouraging' to the majority of people.

Muddy, you are adorable and I enjoyed reading this. Thanks kairos for bumping it!