Posts by FayeDunaway

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Disfellowshipped at 18

by asensier in

you can probably guess how this story goes.. i began dating a non-witness boy.

he knew i was a baptised witness and understood the consequences i faced for dating him.

we agreed to keep our relationship secret, which was easy considering our 200 mile distance.

Most of us here are living proof that you can actually be MORE successful and yes, HAPPIER without that religion. You sound like you know this already, probably because of what you've seen in your boyfriends family. I like the traveb's idea as well. Be sure they know it's in their court, and that you will be there for them. This actually might make them pause and think 'wait, it's not a complete given that I can never talk to her. This whole idea is a bit crazy...'

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Disfellowshipped at 18

by asensier in

you can probably guess how this story goes.. i began dating a non-witness boy.

he knew i was a baptised witness and understood the consequences i faced for dating him.

we agreed to keep our relationship secret, which was easy considering our 200 mile distance.

FayeDunaway

It's completely understandable you feel overwhelmed right now. This is a biggie. You may go into mourning for a while.

You never know what may happen in the future and how many friends or family you will get back, but it does take patience. No this is NOT loving and it's not biblical.

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Disfellowshipped at 18

by asensier in

you can probably guess how this story goes.. i began dating a non-witness boy.

he knew i was a baptised witness and understood the consequences i faced for dating him.

we agreed to keep our relationship secret, which was easy considering our 200 mile distance.

FayeDunaway

I have a daughter who is 18. I can not IMAGINE disowning her because of her falling in love with someone who isn't our religion or following the rules. What it takes for witnesses to do this is serious mind control. Please know that your parents are being controlled and they don't know what they're doing. They can not think for themselves anymore. Try not to take this too personally but know that you are still a person worthy of love. This happens every day in that religion. Heartbreaking.

p.s. You are completely adorable together!! Please pursue your education, at least you have a great college application essay to write now.

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ladies , its not just me, is it?..

by sowhatnow in

ok ladies, has there been any documented studies on the role religion or society plays in keeping women in an economical and social disadvantaged state ?

im wondering how many other women out there in the world, who either being raised or being long term followers of a strict religious faith,with traditional family structures, have upon either divorce or death of a spouse find it nearly impossible to find a mate or economic stability , and live out the remainder of their lives struggling and either bouncing from one guy to another, being disappointed or used, or simply alone.

i have personally felt, that i, being a xjw and now divorced woman , with no acceptable work skills,[ ie: fancy resume with degrees] living of low wage part time work and barely any alimony , will simply be viewed as someone trying to get another man to support her.

FayeDunaway

Except, giordano, usually people who come to the assemblies who don't really want to be there are doing it for their mates!

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Are JWs trying to make dysfunctional kids and destroy their ability to live normal lives?

by C0ntr013r in

are jws trying to make dysfunctional kids that wont "fit" in normal society so they will "return to jehovah"?

because there have been many stories about young people who have been out in the world only to find how bad it was and how correct the org was.. a good jw kid with "good" jw parents will have many big issues, some examples:.

fear of demons (fear, misfit).

FayeDunaway

I just want to emphasize how one simple rule, not letting kids play extracurricular sports, causes a witness kid's social awkwardness.

Youth organized sports is SO good for kids. Not that they should be so tied up in all their time off from school that they have no free time. But just one sport is a great help to them socially. Middle school years (ages 11 to 13 or so), are an extremely awkward age...Especially transitioning from elementary to middle school. Guess what helps? Having played a sport with local kids. They will have been teammates with a great number of other kids from other schools, from each year they have been on a team. It widens their circle greatly. When they go to middle school, they not only know the people from their elementary schools but from every other school in town. Middle school becomes a fun place to reunite, not a daunting place where you don't know most kids.

Also, people have all sorts of different natural abilities. Often these abilities are in sports. What is a witness kid who is amazing at sports supposed to do? Totally deny their talents. Hopefully they are also great and passionate at something else, because they have no chance at all to develop athletic talent. So, thanks to the society for completely cutting off the potential of so many children who otherwise would have had a whole lot more self esteem as well as have improved their physical abilities. You know those nerdy people who walk strangely? Do you think they were on sports teams? Not usually. Sports helps kids work out the kinks.

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Are JWs trying to make dysfunctional kids and destroy their ability to live normal lives?

by C0ntr013r in

are jws trying to make dysfunctional kids that wont "fit" in normal society so they will "return to jehovah"?

because there have been many stories about young people who have been out in the world only to find how bad it was and how correct the org was.. a good jw kid with "good" jw parents will have many big issues, some examples:.

fear of demons (fear, misfit).

FayeDunaway

They'll mention their appreciation for childless couples and seniors and singles once a year in a watchtower study article and feel they've covered all the bases.

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Reliable source - new round of US Bethel layoffs coming soon

by sir82 in

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was talking to an ex-bethelite who is still very well-connected to those in the ivory tower.. he says that there will soon be a(nother) large number of us bethelites who will be "reassigned to the field" as pioneers and special pioneers.. he did not give his source, but he is pretty reliable.

incidentally, he was "reassigned to the field" in the last big purge about 7 years ago.. i imagine those so reassigned would be pretty teed off.

let go just before the golden lakeshore palace was completed..

FayeDunaway

It's like Logan's Run.

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Are JWs trying to make dysfunctional kids and destroy their ability to live normal lives?

by C0ntr013r in

are jws trying to make dysfunctional kids that wont "fit" in normal society so they will "return to jehovah"?

because there have been many stories about young people who have been out in the world only to find how bad it was and how correct the org was.. a good jw kid with "good" jw parents will have many big issues, some examples:.

fear of demons (fear, misfit).

FayeDunaway

I think they are starting to realize, finally, that their real growth is coming from kids born into it. Their recent child centered indoctrination seems to be actually encouraging witnesses to have kids. They're becoming more Mormon every day. Pretty soon it will be 'you get your own 100 acres of paradise if you have 6 kids!'

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Why Is This New Batch of Governing Body Members So Stupid?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

well there are lots of reason for sure, denial, delusion, wishful thinking, ego maniac, infantile understanding of ancient writings, satanophobia, xenophobia, out of touch with reality, limited choices scrapping the bottom of the barrel,and many more.. listen to this ted talk and see if you can pick out something that helps explain why these guys are such ass holes:.

organizations are often run according to the superchicken model, where the value is placed on star employees who outperform others.

and yet, this isnt what drives the most high-achieving teams.

FayeDunaway

Now that the 'anointed' are getting either too elderly to be promoted or judged insane for saying they are anointed cuz they're too young,....pickings are getting slim. 'The best,' of the anointed men who would become the GB, are no longer so good. You have men dying on a desert island. The last ones to become the leaders are not going to be as good as the first ones who were natural leaders.

Also I was thinking, what does it take these days to be a true believer fundamentalist witness? Back when GB 1.0 was being educated, evolution was barely taught in school. GB 2.0 would have been much more exposed to it, and for a true believer witness to survive, it takes a lot of shutting down the mind and a more rigid personality. These guys have always followed the rules to a t, to be promoted. Some of the nice elders all of us have known were probably doubters, more merciful, less legalistic. That's not the type of elders these guys are. They have been dogmatically rigid their whole lives and have chosen to be ignorant and purposely devalued education because it is a threat to their fundamentalist faith.

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I joined this site 13 years ago...

by Funchback in

hello, everyone.. as noted in the topic, i joined here 13 years ago.

i last posted here over 5 years ago.

i just now learned that this site still exists!

FayeDunaway

Nice message. Thanks funchback!